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I can't be sure because I only have looked at a small number of serial numbers which can be traced back to the wafer, but it might be production recently shifted to D1D from Fab 32 (maybe to make room for Haswell?). You can't tell this from the batch number printed on the box.

This weekend I'm going to see about looking at some parametric data (current and voltage measurements) to see if there's a correlation between this data and better overclocking die.

Interested to see your results. Are the new "D" batch chips i've been seeing manufactured at D1D, you think? Or some other batch?
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I was wondering what do you use to clean off the old Intel TIM off the DIE once you delided? Just regular alcohol and a cotton swap would be fine?
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Originally Posted by JSTe View Post

A soft cloth, like microfiber.

I just used methylated spirits, A tissue and some cotton tips to remove the excess TIM, I do this for many GPU's and CPU's whether they're nekked to the core or have an IHS. Haven't had any problems so far thumb.gif
"Only done" about 20-30 mounts on various things, probably even more haha.
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Anyone mount CLC water coolers directly on the die? Or do those too have a risk of cracking die and/or poor contact like heavy air coolers?

As far as I see it it should be safe, I'd say they'd weigh about the same as a regular block as a regular block is generally bigger and better made (More metal, more channels. etc). But the H100i etc does have a pump in it, pumps are fairly light though.

That being said any form of direct die is risky business.. I am considering it myself but I'm not sure, I'd kind of like to have a motherboard warranty still tongue.gif
 
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Guys what's with the >20c rise in temps from using AVX instructions? Installing service pack 1 takes me from struggling to break 67c to poking at the 90's - on an overclock that it DEFINITELY should not - and i can't replicate this temp rise in any kind of game or in x264 etc. It's just, IBT, prime are unusable with service pack 1 installed (avx support)

And i dont mean like, delid, 20c hotter than sandy temps; I mean i'm more than 15c hotter than my friend on a 3570k with the same voltage, clock speed and superior cooling when i have it installed. Off vs off, temps are similar

I didn't delid yet, i'm not sure if i plan to soon, want to get a feel for overclock first because i have no idea w t f is happening
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Guys what's with the >20c rise in temps from using AVX instructions? Installing service pack 1 takes me from struggling to break 67c to poking at the 90's - on an overclock that it DEFINITELY should not - and i can't replicate this temp rise in any kind of game or in x264 etc. It's just, IBT, prime are unusable with service pack 1 installed (avx support)

And i dont mean like, delid, 20c hotter than sandy temps; I mean i'm more than 15c hotter than my friend on a 3570k with the same voltage, clock speed and superior cooling when i have it installed. Off vs off, temps are similar

I didn't delid yet, i'm not sure if i plan to soon, want to get a feel for overclock first because i have no idea w t f is happening

Pictures of screen with cpus and then we will need bios settings for your voltage pll and vcciso
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Pictures of screen with cpus and then we will need bios settings for your voltage pll and vcciso

I don't think he'd be very excited to be spending time on being in cpu experiment, but i didn't set either of those. Should i have done?

I expected Haswell oc guides a week after release so i didn't put a lot of effort into reading up. With the lack of them, i'm kinda blind here (:
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I don't think he'd be very excited to be spending time on being in cpu experiment, but i didn't set either of those. Should i have done?

I expected Haswell oc guides a week after release so i didn't put a lot of effort into reading up. With the lack of them, i'm kinda blind here (:

Are we talking of an Ivy Chip or as Haswell one? Either way AVX instructions increase the performance of the chip which in-turn makes it run hotter. If you look at the GFLOPS that you used to get before SP1 and then look at them now they should have doubled.

Unfortunately that's just the way it is, and yeah you're right in the fact that it doesn't effect games or anything that doesn't have AVX. thumb.gif

What cooling do you have? Just out of curiosity smile.gif
 
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The temperature rise is see is leagues more than him though, that's my point. I'l post shots with and without sp1. I have a silver arrow
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What are your CPU voltage settings? Once you use avx your CPU will add more voltage it ca go from 1.275 to 1.31 by its self unless your using manual voltage.
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Delidding my 4770k as soon as I get my TIMs and I wanted to find out what should I put over the areas that the CLU cant touch? And is CLU the best for this? I bought some Indigo Xtreme the day 4770k was released and wasnt thinking, because they where saying that the coolant mounting holes where same as 1155, so was thinking that IE would work on 4770k, then after i got it I started thinking about what if it runs under the chip? can it, if it turns out that the IE and 4770k work together on the top and Water block? and what do you suggest on the parts that need protection?


My real problem about buying CLP is that if it turns out that EI cant be used, I cant buy both CLP and CLU and I want something like CLU between WC block and top of chip.
    
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SO if I decided to do a delid. Could I just use PK-1 paste between the IHS? or would the temp drop not be as drastic?
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