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Originally Posted by leppie View Post

Still pondering if I should try delid again.
Currently 4.5 @1.25V peaking at 84 deg C.
For 4.6, I will require around 1.35V.
At 1.325V my temps jump around 10-12 deg C @ 4.5.
Also a single multiplier change is about 3 deg C too.
Quick maths tells me for 4.6 @ 1.135V I should hit around 102-104 deg C.
Now given the average drop in temps is 20 deg C, I wonder if all this is worth it for an extra 100MHz.
I am not a folder/bencher and that would be the only reason it would mind.
A 15 deg C drop at 4.5 would be nice though biggrin.gif
PS: Just to show how crap this bond is. My water/air delta at idle is 3 deg C. My water/air delta at load is 5 deg C. And my setup is extremely basic and got a GPU block (cant make that thing bring up temp either, but had to use water as the air fan was noisey and very crap).
In perspective, my i7 860 would easily raise the water/air delta to 12-15 deg C. I could probably get by with a single RAD currently ;p

for normal daily use, and play games etc you wont note a very big difference
going up from 4.5 to 4.6ghz..about 2-3% speedgain, less or nothing in games..

is that 84C if youre running prime or ibt ?
you prolly never see that high temps with normal daily usage..

i couldnt even run prime at 4.5ghz, without hitting 105C,
my mind was made up within a week of buying it...delid..lol
i think you would see a bigger temp drop then 15C with youre cooling smile.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 10/30/12 at 8:14am
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Can the spreadsheet be changed? I ditched the IC Diamond between the IHS and Waterblock. running liquid pro for on the die and the waterblock now.


temps are better by a bit..



considering my ambient air temp is 77 F. a 4 degree celcius drop....probably a mix of mounting and the liquid pro.
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Can the spreadsheet be changed? I ditched the IC Diamond between the IHS and Waterblock. running liquid pro for on the die and the waterblock now.
temps are better by a bit.. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
considering my ambient air temp is 77 F. a 4 degree celcius drop....probably a mix of mounting and the liquid pro.

still nice 4C, thumb.gif
but like we already thought, not a big difference between tim's between ihs and cooler,
liquid pro/ultra is still one of the best, wherever you use it, on die, on ihs ...lol
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I was just happy to get any drop.. lol
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I was just happy to get any drop.. lol

And that was Liquid pro vs Liquid Ultra on the die? 2=5c is what i kinda expect between the two under IHS.
    
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for normal daily use, and play games etc you wont note a very big difference
going up from 4.5 to 4.6ghz..about 2-3% speedgain, less or nothing in games..
is that 84C if youre running prime or ibt ?
you prolly never see that high temps with normal daily usage..
i couldnt even run prime at 4.5ghz, without hitting 105C,
my mind was made up within a week of buying it...delid..lol
i think you would see a bigger temp drop then 15C with youre cooling smile.gif

84 deg C with Prime small FFT (cpu/water delta was 51 deg C)
86 deg C with IBT (using the method described in OP) (cpu/water delta was 52 deg C)

I noted today I was running an older version of IBT.

The new version makes the temps more inline with what I get via Prime.
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

And that was Liquid pro vs Liquid Ultra on the die? 2=5c is what i kinda expect between the two under IHS.

going from IC diamond to pro between the IHS and waterblock.
Edited by kgtuning - 10/30/12 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

Using Zalman CNPS9500A LED @2500rpm, just wait till water cooling. IGPU in use!
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OCN name: Systemlord
CPU: Core i7 3770K @4.5GHz
On die-TIM: Liquid Pro
IHS-TIM: MX4
Mhz gained: Not attempted yet
OC after delid: Same
Temp drops:

Accepted! thumb.gif
Now slap that sig on your sig area there!
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Originally Posted by leppie View Post

Still pondering if I should try delid again.
Currently 4.5 @1.25V peaking at 84 deg C.
For 4.6, I will require around 1.35V.
At 1.325V my temps jump around 10-12 deg C @ 4.5.
Also a single multiplier change is about 3 deg C too.
Quick maths tells me for 4.6 @ 1.135V I should hit around 102-104 deg C.
Now given the average drop in temps is 20 deg C, I wonder if all this is worth it for an extra 100MHz.
I am not a folder/bencher and that would be the only reason it would mind.
A 15 deg C drop at 4.5 would be nice though biggrin.gif
PS: Just to show how crap this bond is. My water/air delta at idle is 3 deg C. My water/air delta at load is 5 deg C. And my setup is extremely basic and got a GPU block (cant make that thing bring up temp either, but had to use water as the air fan was noisey and very crap).
In perspective, my i7 860 would easily raise the water/air delta to 12-15 deg C. I could probably get by with a single RAD currently ;p

I run 4.5 for folding and my temps rarely spike to 66C but I believe I've had pumping out of my TIM sadly so I have to wait for the other chip to get here so i can put LP on both. You will see w very very nice temp drop I'm assuming your IHs is actually a bit higher then most and this space is causing these crazy temps so if you delid make sure to look at how much TIM is on the die.
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

for normal daily use, and play games etc you wont note a very big difference
going up from 4.5 to 4.6ghz..about 2-3% speedgain, less or nothing in games..
is that 84C if youre running prime or ibt ?
you prolly never see that high temps with normal daily usage..
i couldnt even run prime at 4.5ghz, without hitting 105C,
my mind was made up within a week of buying it...delid..lol
i think you would see a bigger temp drop then 15C with youre cooling smile.gif

I saw about a 20C when I did it but I averaged all of my temp drops per clock. I know I need to redo this lol
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

Can the spreadsheet be changed? I ditched the IC Diamond between the IHS and Waterblock. running liquid pro for on the die and the waterblock now.
temps are better by a bit..

considering my ambient air temp is 77 F. a 4 degree celcius drop....probably a mix of mounting and the liquid pro.
Updated! thumb.gif
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@ Valgaur... Thank you sir!
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