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Yeah, thought so...I'll get an MVG even despite a bit higher vcore, I want to oc my ram and gb bios are broken with 30nm Samsung ram. They just won't cut it.
I'm getting gskill 2400 Mhz ram very very soon...I hope lol.
post #1952 of 33794
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Delidding a 3770k or a 3570K seems to greatly degredate the cpu. Search HWbot and Xtreme systems for more info.

o_O

Seems like False Info to me

I do not see in any way shape or form how de lidding a Chip degrades it...

There degrading cause of what Valgaur likes to do with his 1.85v @_@
    
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o_O
Seems like False Info to me
I do not see in any way shape or form how de lidding a Chip degrades it...
There degrading cause of what Valgaur likes to do with his 1.85v @_@

Yeah, how does that work? changing the TIM and it starts to degrade...lol. Hokies I'm with you on this one...voltage does it.
post #1954 of 33794
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Yeah, how does that work? changing the TIM and it starts to degrade...lol. Hokies I'm with you on this one...voltage does it.

Thats a Mod.. he then said he does not like Ivy Bridge..

And said i was trolling because i said Ib and 8350 seems to Overlock to just about the same max Mhz.. But de lidded IB chips will go higher.

I thought this was an Over clocking forum where any information is welcome.. heh i may have to start posting less here and more over on [H]

There is alot of insecure Amd Fan boys over there you gotta post and check it twice before you hit submit are they will whine rage and troll you like the worlds is coming to an end.


And all i want is information on the chip.. and make sure there not giving noobs false information heh.
Edited by Hokies83 - 10/30/12 at 6:08pm
    
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I've seen some comments like those, from green folk too...they're people after all. tongue.gif

Anyway, Valgaur, get 2133mhz ram and overclock it! Look for x series psc stuff, or in case you can't get any of those get hinyx stuff, they clock over 2600mhz easily, not as tight timings as powerchip ic's though.
You can google which ram has which ic's easily, if not there's a thread here. (ram addict club)
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

o_O
Seems like False Info to me
I do not see in any way shape or form how de lidding a Chip degrades it...
There degrading cause of what Valgaur likes to do with his 1.85v @_@

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Yeah, how does that work? changing the TIM and it starts to degrade...lol. Hokies I'm with you on this one...voltage does it.

And he is right ktung. mainly because distributing heat better can't damage anything. think of it as cooling your car engine. your driving in 105 heat and your heat meter is at lets say 230 (just go with it tongue.gif ) and you dump water on your engine to cool it....nothing happens except the temp goes down! eek.gif obviously nothing happens tot he engine. it's the same thing for your CPU heat dissipation has nothing to do with it. UNTIL you realize like me and VonDutch that we can go even high on our OC's because the heat limitation is gone now. so bring on those volts!!!! biggrin.gif
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I've seen some comments like those, from green folk too...they're people after all. tongue.gif
Anyway, Valgaur, get 2133mhz ram and overclock it! Look for x series psc stuff, or in case you can't get any of those get hinyx stuff, they clock over 2600mhz easily, not as tight timings as powerchip ic's though.
You can google which ram has which ic's easily, if not there's a thread here. (ram addict club)

first off not sorry for the double post lol.

Anyways I need tight timing ram for my HWbot runs. my 1600 Mhz is poopy stuff.
post #1958 of 33794
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first off not sorry for the double post lol.
Anyways I need tight timing ram for my HWbot runs. my 1600 Mhz is poopy stuff.

Best efficiency is at 2400mhz-2500mhz with cl9 timings...and properly tweaked secondary and tertiary timings.
HIgher than that scores less, compare your different timing/mhz settings with Maxxmem single threaded, that should net you the best results in benchmarks, except for max dram clocks ofc. thumb.gif
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Just read about 25 pages on Extreme Systems And they all say the IB is much tougher chip then SB and SB-E and not one are reporting any degrading.

but he added more lol..
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I totally disagree with the delidding aspect as it causes some damage to the CPU in most cases! Most of the time, degrading is not only due to voltage.
Also, the quoting of Intel maximums, frequencies, etc. in AMD forums or Vice versa without having a question asked is usually conveyed as trolling, Especially on such a historically heated topic.
You definitely are well aware of this aspect!!
Anyway, lets stay on topic.



Edited by Hokies83 - 10/30/12 at 6:32pm
    
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Just read about 25 pages on Extreme Systems And they all say the IB is much tougher chip then SB and SB-E and not one are reporting any degrading.
but he added more lol..

Which XS thread were you checking out?

Edit: Is this the link to the thread you are talking about?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280892-3770k-IHS-Removals-CPU-temp-dropped-from-79C-to-71C/page23


And the two major things that can damage a cpu are voltage and heat. I think we can all agree that lowering the temps of the cpu will not hurt the cpu. Delidding accomplishes that in a very effective way. That guy most be short a few brain cells or have some other agenda to think this degrades a cpu. If he really believes that, then the burden is on him to provide the proof.
Edited by PCWargamer - 10/30/12 at 9:14pm
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