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Actually there is some truth the the fact that delidding will degrade your CPU.
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Actually there is some truth the the fact that delidding will degrade your CPU.

If so, I am all ears. How does it do it? Really, I am interested in knowing how and why it would degrade a cpu. I know that delidded chips do poorly with LN2, but that's another issue and not degrading a chip. Can you explain and/or do you have a link or two I can read? - thanks!
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I remember this from memory when I asked around about delidding. It doesn't do a constant degrade that it will degrade slowly forever. It will however limit your max OC. That's how it degrades. Let's say that the max OC your chip would do pre-delid is 6.0GHz, almost more than likely, you won't reach it again after delid even though you have lower temps.
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But we just re did what intel did... they had them de lidded to... Then they glued one on and put some tim on it..

All we are doing is removing there glue and putting better tim on it and putting the Lid back on.. i do not see how it hurts anything.
    
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I remember this from memory when I asked around about delidding. It doesn't do a constant degrade that it will degrade slowly forever. It will however limit your max OC. That's how it degrades. Let's say that the max OC your chip would do pre-delid is 6.0GHz, almost more than likely, you won't reach it again after delid even though you have lower temps.

You are correct - that I agree with. If we define degrade as losing some ability of the chip as a one time event, then yep, a delidded chip often seems to no longer reach the same high OC with extreme cooling like LN2. That can be a bummer for those few who want their cpu to be able to do that.

But the other type of degrade definition of having a delidded chip start to need higher voltage to reach the same OCs over time with air/water does not seem to be a problem. I think a delidded chip is less likely to degrade this second way and will probably last longer then a lidded cpu when run at 4.5-5+GHz on air/water. And I think that is the more common and likely way to define degrading a cpu. IMHO.
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I personally don't consider the max OC being lower degrade but to some it is.Although, yes. The lower temps do fight against the normal degrade which is a HUUUUUGE plus. tongue.gif
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I personally don't consider the max OC being lower degrade but to some it is.Although, yes. The lower temps do fight against the normal degrade which is a HUUUUUGE plus. tongue.gif

Yep. HUUUUUGE plus!!!

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I personally don't consider the max OC being lower degrade but to some it is.Although, yes. The lower temps do fight against the normal degrade which is a HUUUUUGE plus. tongue.gif

Yep. HUUUUUGE plus!!!

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Got it done. I just changed it a bit. tongue.gif
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I personally don't consider the max OC being lower degrade but to some it is.Although, yes. The lower temps do fight against the normal degrade which is a HUUUUUGE plus. tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Yep. HUUUUUGE plus!!!
You know Swag, there must be something in your sig you can do without to add in the Delidding Crew so you can show everyone that you are one of us!!! thumb.gif

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Got it done. I just changed it a bit. tongue.gif

LAWL and I care about those max OC's I AM VALGAUR!!! Nah I'm just a guy who likes to bench and OC a lot.
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I still call BS on 'electronic' degradation. Mechanical/physical yes.
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