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Thanks I might give it a try! thumb.gif
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Someone has to explain me this nail polish thing. It is known vrm run extremely hot (sometimes even hotter than the cpu itself), wouldn't that melt the nail polish? Also nail polish is flammable, I'm not this sure is a good idea tbh.

I've drenched my gtx 670's in nail polish to stop coil whine (it actually does work), just let it dry and its fine.

That was my question...do those little transistors on the 4770k generate much heat? If they do the nail polish will act as an insulator and not allow them to dissipate heat effectively, if at all.
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That was my question...do those little transistors on the 4770k generate much heat? If they do the nail polish will act as an insulator and not allow them to dissipate heat effectively, if at all.

From the people i've seen post that do cover them, no. They just do it as a precaution. Those same people are getting 30c temp drops on the haswells. I think if you put too much on and it interferes with the IHS then yeah you're gonna have a problem. But people shouldn't be doing more than 2 passes with a nail polish brush on them

I was prepared to use it on my ivy bridge. But i ended up only surface scratching the side of the pcb on the chip. which wasn't directly connected to anything it was just surface area to fit in the 1155 slot.
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Thanks I might give it a try! thumb.gif

Just make sure to spread it around even. I took apart my 670's down to the gpu die and then started applying it around the choke points. some of them are closed chokes, they look like black squares with no exposed copper coil. Cant do anything about those. But anything you see on the PCB with exposed copper coil, lube it up. Most coil whine these days comes from an overclock on the card. But back on topic...

Also you're gonna be trippin on fumes for a few hours as the cards heat up (even if its dry), but its worth it. Cheapest high you will ever experience! (Kidding, never do drugs rolleyes.gif)

If you're talking about applying it to the CPU, i highly advise you make sure to not use a massive gob. And only do 1/2 passes over scratch marks or transistors. You don't need a lot, just enough to shield it from stuff like Liquid Metal.
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That was my question...do those little transistors on the 4770k generate much heat? If they do the nail polish will act as an insulator and not allow them to dissipate heat effectively, if at all.

...if that is the case (either might apply), it is actually another reason to delid if not run IHS-less. With delidiing and no black silicone glue replacement, the little gap re IHS to PCB would allow hot air to escape...and running w/o IHS would probable be even better.
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That was my question...do those little transistors on the 4770k generate much heat? If they do the nail polish will act as an insulator and not allow them to dissipate heat effectively, if at all.

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...if that is the case (either might apply), it is actually another reason to delid if not run IHS-less. With delidiing and no black silicone glue replacement, the little gap re IHS to PCB would allow hot air to escape...and running w/o IHS would probable be even better.

Exactly. If they needed to dissipate heat then Intel wouldn't have them just sitting there inside the IHS with no airflow.
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Someone has to explain me this nail polish thing. It is known vrm run extremely hot (sometimes even hotter than the cpu itself), wouldn't that melt the nail polish? Also nail polish is flammable, I'm not this sure is a good idea tbh.

They aren't VRMs, they are just surface mount capacitors. If they got hot then there would most likely have been some provision for cooling them under the IHS.
Edited by Forceman - 7/16/13 at 11:54am
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They aren't VRMs, they are just surface mount capacitors. If they got hot then there would most likely have been some provision for cooling them under the IHS.

This makes sense, thanks. Nail polish it is (when I get around to it anyway).
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Someone has to explain me this nail polish thing. It is known vrm run extremely hot (sometimes even hotter than the cpu itself), wouldn't that melt the nail polish? Also nail polish is flammable, I'm not this sure is a good idea tbh.




The stuff that I am using is sold as an Electrical rated conforming coating. Not nail polish.

http://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2120559.pdf


I am going to put .5mm layer of fujipoly thermal pad around the die which will make contact between the coated SMD capacitors and the heat sink. This may help cool them off if they get hot. It will look like this.



I left if off for first mount because the acrylic coating needs some time to cure.
Edited by SonDa5 - 7/16/13 at 4:00pm
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Those things next to the die aren't transistors but SMD capacitors. There really is no reason to cool them at all, and to be honest I'd avoid putting thermal padding over them as it will just put a lot of pressure on them, making it more likely they will come off.
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