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Ooooohh.... I was thinking the stock paste was the culprit. Good to know.

It is both the gap caused by the excessive sealant and probably too much or thick thermal paste.
The thermal paste supposedly isn't that bad at all but the gap and resultant thick layer of it is the culprit.
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Yeah ive ordered from frozen before. Cheapest shipping but then there are customs charges on top of that.

I have arctic silver 5 on hand. Would this give me similar results? I take it the most important thing with delidding is getting rid of the black glue.

You can chose USPS and there should be no custom charges.

I've had an order over $300 with no custom charges. Shipping is like $7-$8 for that weight.

No AS5 would be no where near giving you CLU results. AS5 is outdated and really should not be used even on regular applications. Examples of what is best out there is things like Gelid, MX-4, Phobia, Prolimatech PK1 etc...

And with the AS5 there is that long curing time.
 
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You can chose USPS and there should be no custom charges.

I've had an order over $300 with no custom charges. Shipping is like $7-$8 for that weight.

No AS5 would be no where near giving you CLU results. AS5 is outdated and really should not be used even on regular applications. Examples of what is best out there is things like Gelid, MX-4, Phobia, Prolimatech PK1 etc...

And with the AS5 there is that long curing time.

Hmm im learning alot here. Can you describe this curing process? What happens to the paste over time and how does it effect temperatures?
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Yeah ive ordered from frozen before. Cheapest shipping but then there are customs charges on top of that.

I have arctic silver 5 on hand. Would this give me similar results? I take it the most important thing with delidding is getting rid of the black glue.

AS5 will not give you the temps you are seeing others achieve here. You want to have a liquid metal on the die. I use CLU.
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hey gents i'm sure this has been discussed before in here but I have a simple question, I have a delidded 3770k, and a new motherboard on the way. I will be taking the 3770K out of my old board and placing it in my new board. Chip has been delidded for about 6-12 months. Should I replace the CLU?
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Hmm im learning alot here. Can you describe this curing process? What happens to the paste over time and how does it effect temperatures?

It takes about 200 hours to cure AS5. The other thermal pastes I described are non conductive and need no curing time. Also AS5 tends to dry out, while these others will stay wet.

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hey gents i'm sure this has been discussed before in here but I have a simple question, I have a delidded 3770k, and a new motherboard on the way. I will be taking the 3770K out of my old board and placing it in my new board. Chip has been delidded for about 6-12 months. Should I replace the CLU?

Some people checked their application after 8-12 months and some report dryness in places, however when they reheated the CLU (blowing soft hot air on it) it came back to liquid. Best to check, reheat the CLU, brush it back on the die and add a bit more if necessary.
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Yeah ive ordered from frozen before. Cheapest shipping but then there are customs charges on top of that.

I have arctic silver 5 on hand. Would this give me similar results? I take it the most important thing with delidding is getting rid of the black glue.

USPS has never charged me customs/shipping to Ontario from Frozencpu! thumb.gif
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Yeah ive ordered from frozen before. Cheapest shipping but then there are customs charges on top of that.

I have arctic silver 5 on hand. Would this give me similar results? I take it the most important thing with delidding is getting rid of the black glue.

Removing the black glue just reduces the space between the die and the IHS, so there is better heat transfer. The point of getting better TIM also helps to transfer heat more efficiently. I would suggest using CLU/CLP if you want the best results or at least one of the top-performing TIMs around (see Gunderman's recommendations a few posts up).

Before delidding, the fins from the stock Intel cooler would never heat up, but after delidding, the fins got easily hot, especially when overclocking. It's surprising to me since it finally acted more like my old 2550K, it always seemed unnatural for the heatsinks to never heat up for Ivy chips, despite the high load temps.
    
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Just 2 quick questions...

i5-3570k oc'd to 5.0ghz @ 1.36 vcore passes IBT on high setting. 87 degree max temp.

Currently cooled by a stock h220.

Is this worth delidding if all I really do is game? and...

How long on average do these chips last at 5.0ghz?

The frequency won't degrade them, only the heat and voltage. Delid would put you to pretty freezing temps and your voltage is really quite safe at your current temps but especially with 20c cut off
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