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I completed my first build last week. And I just finished my first delid tonight, and the overall process went smooth.I used the vice/hammer/wood method and used AS5. Took about 3hits and it popped off. Yup- returning the vice to Home Depot tomorrow biggrin.gif.... I wasn't really going to delid my cpu, but sadly I bought a below average chip to overclock with.

I5-4670K Batch #: 3339B838 (purchased at Micro Center about 2-3weeks ago)
Mobo: Asus Z87-A
PSU: Corsair CX600M
Ram: 2x4Gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz (9-9-9-24)
Stock Idle Temp via Hyper 212 Evo and AS5: 27C-33C
Ambient Temps: Not sure I live near the coast its about 13-20c outside

Test 1 (AS5 Core + IHS)
Core Ratio Multiplier: 40
Cache “Ring” Ratio Multiplier: 38
Core Voltage: 1.180
Core Voltage Mode: Manual
Cache Voltage: Auto (Adaptive)
Core Voltage Mode: Auto (Adaptive)
Idle Temp: 36C-42C
Max Core Temp: 79C
Max Temps: 79C, 78C, 78C, 74C
Stability Test: Prime95 blend test for 10hours 17mins.

Test 2 (AS5 Core + IHS)
Core Ratio Multiplier: 40
Cache “Ring” Ratio Multiplier: 38
Core Voltage: 1.165v
Core Voltage Mode: Manual
Cache Voltage: Auto (Adaptive)
Core Voltage Mode: Auto (Adaptive)
Idle Temp: 36C-42C
Max Core Temp: 78C
Max Temps: 78C, 77C, 76C, 73C
Stability Test: Prime95 blend test for 1hour 20mins.

Test 3 (after delid used Test 1 Configuration) (AS5 Core + IHS)
Core Ratio Multiplier: 40
Cache “Ring” Ratio Multiplier: 38
Core Voltage: 1.180
Core Voltage Mode: Manual
Cache Voltage: Auto (Adaptive)
Core Voltage Mode: Auto (Adaptive)
Idle Temp: 36C-42C
Max Core Temp: 72C
Max Temps: 68C, 69C, 72C, 71C
Stability Test: Prime95 blend test for 1hr.. currently running and going to leave it on overnight.

I did my best to remove the black glue off the IHS but didn't remove all of it. Not sure if that is the problem. I might use a hairdryer to melt/remove most of it off this upcoming weekend. I carefully used a flat screwdriver to apply the AS5 (did it about 4x) and used it to 'paste' a thin layer. It looks like I'm only going to see about ~5C-7C difference on max core temp. I was hoping for at least double.. My Idle temps before delidding and after delidding seems to remain the same.

I guess the upside is that if I lower the voltage like I did in Test 2, my max temp will be around 70C or maybe even less. I also like to mention that I have 2noctua push/pull fans (which I regret purchasing) on my Hyper 212 EVO, 1 noctua exhaust fan, and 2 corsair intake fans. Oh well- I guess my goal of a 4.2oc with less than 1.2v/70C seems to be just a dream.


Edited by jsx821 - 3/17/14 at 1:26am
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Question about Liquid pro... I just ordered some, and will be delidding when it gets here.. I am going over to the Liquid Pro thread as well, but I am curious with the Nickel Plated EK block, if I should put the Liquid Pro on the outside between the IHS and waterblock as well? I am seeing in very few places that it supposedly works wonderful with Nickel Plated Copper... Just want to see if anyone has direct input here as well.
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Question about Liquid pro... I just ordered some, and will be delidding when it gets here.. I am going over to the Liquid Pro thread as well, but I am curious with the Nickel Plated EK block, if I should put the Liquid Pro on the outside between the IHS and waterblock as well? I am seeing in very few places that it supposedly works wonderful with Nickel Plated Copper... Just want to see if anyone has direct input here as well.
no dont do it, it will mess up you waterblock and the top of the ihs which will void warrenty and you will not be able to send it back if it dies
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I was thinking about using the Liquid Pro on the Core, but use AS5/PK3 on the IHS.
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no dont do it, it will mess up you waterblock and the top of the ihs which will void warrenty and you will not be able to send it back if it dies

Hmm... That wouldn't be good. Why does collaboratory say that it is really good for nickel plated copper if it will ruin a nickel plated copper block? That seems counter productive as I would go after them for misinformation.




If my block is Nickel plated Copper.... It would seem that they would be a perfect mate... but if it ruins it, then coollab is generally Effing people over with that highlighted section, because I was going to use it for the TIM material in between the Die and IHS and then the IHS and Block...
Edited by Scarlet-Tech - 3/17/14 at 1:33am
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One question - do you guys keep your cpu fan speed at max speed during stability testing? What about your chassis fans during stability testing?
Lastly, what do you guys keep it after stability testing during everyday use @ your particular overclock.
Edited by jsx821 - 3/17/14 at 2:08am
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I max fans during stability testing, just because it's usually hotter than anything else on system

Chassis fans, fan controller and throw up when sustained combined cpu+gpu load

gpu fan it's own curve, cpu fans either pwm or solid on 1300rpm
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Hmm... That wouldn't be good. Why does collaboratory say that it is really good for nickel plated copper if it will ruin a nickel plated copper block? That seems counter productive as I would go after them for misinformation.




If my block is Nickel plated Copper.... It would seem that they would be a perfect mate... but if it ruins it, then coollab is generally Effing people over with that highlighted section, because I was going to use it for the TIM material in between the Die and IHS and then the IHS and Block...

It's fine for nickel plated, but it doesn't provide much of a temp decrease between the IHS and waterblock, so most people don't bother putting it there. It can be a pain to clean off, even if it doesn't damage anything.
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It's fine for nickel plated, but it doesn't provide much of a temp decrease between the IHS and waterblock, so most people don't bother putting it there. It can be a pain to clean off, even if it doesn't damage anything.

The mess part makes perfect sense!
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Please add me to the club. I wasn't really looking for more OC headroom... I just wanted to quiet things down. Running at stock, my desktop gets rather noisy when I encode video (hits the CPU really hard). For practice, I first performed a delid on my HTPC Celeron CPU, since I would like it to run cooler too in order to keep fan noise down. Since it went smoothly, I went ahead and knocked the lid off my i7-4770k. Details for both below.
Haswell Celeron G1820 Delid (Click to show)

I think I may be the first person in the world to delid this chip. OCN exclusive LOL.

Here it is after smacking it with a hammer:


One peculiar point of interest with the Haswell Celeron, there are actually some delicate points under the IHS adhesive that aren't there on the i5 and i7 Haswells. I think the vice-and-hammer method is the only safe way to delid one of these chips. I don't know if the Pentium or i3 chips have this too:






Anyway, after applying CLU to the underside and using RTV silicon to put it all back together, everything is working fine. I didn't take a screenshot of Realtemp before the delid, so you'll just have to take my word for it that the hottest core would hit 53°C running Prime95 with large FFT. Here it is after while running Prime95 large FFT (stock cooler):



It didn't even break 40°C! HA!!
Haswell Core i7-4770k Delid (Click to show)

There's hundreds of pictures of 4770k delids so I'll just throw mine up without narration:








Prime95 Before:


Prime95 After:

OCN name: rwpritchett
CPU: Celeron G1820 & i7-4770k
on die-TIM: CLU
ihs-TIM: Gelid GC Extreme
Mhz gained: 300Hz
OC after delid: 4.5GHz
Temp drops: ~15°C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/n0t6z5

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