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Originally Posted by exodus1500 View Post

I am wondering if you guys could take a minute and look at my temps, I am not sure they are normal. here is my temp readings from aquasuite. I am concerned by the spikes, they drop down pretty quickly, but I am worried that I might not be making full contact between my water block and processor, which is naked.

These spikes are just running normal operations, like opening browsers, looking at a video, etc.

I am still able to OC it to around 4.6Ghz at around 80* in prime, though, so I am not sure.

My setup is a naked 4770k with a Bitspower Summit water block.

THANKS!!!!


Pretty sure that just happens, you're not hitting 50c. Prime is also pretty much expected to be that hot, the more aggressive heat tests are way hotter vs real loads on Haswell vs most other chips
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Need some advice as to what I should do with my 4670k.

As seen in the picture below, I can run 4.6GHz @ 1.25v with the hottest core reaching 77 degrees Celsius. However I'm not sure if I'm stressing it right. AIDA produced the results in the image below, but to be certain I ran P95 28.4. My 4670k reached 95 degrees in literally a few seconds, never again will I run 28.4. Older versions of Prime produce roughly the same temperatures as the AIDA stress tests.

Is it worth delidding? I've booted into 4.8GHz @ 1.3v however it BSoD'ed after a few seconds, I'm guessing it's achievable with a voltage of say 1.31-1.32v.

If I was to delid would I need specific tim's? I currently only have artic silver 5 and I hear people use specific tim's for the cpu die.

*Image is circled as cpu-z gave inaccurate vcore readouts*




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Originally Posted by Frimbles View Post

Need some advice as to what I should do with my 4670k.

As seen in the picture below, I can run 4.6GHz @ 1.25v with the hottest core reaching 77 degrees Celsius. However I'm not sure if I'm stressing it right. AIDA produced the results in the image below, but to be certain I ran P95 28.4. My 4670k reached 95 degrees in literally a few seconds, never again will I run 28.4. Older versions of Prime produce roughly the same temperatures as the AIDA stress tests.

Is it worth delidding? I've booted into 4.8GHz @ 1.3v however it BSoD'ed after a few seconds, I'm guessing it's achievable with a voltage of say 1.31-1.32v.

If I was to delid would I need specific tim's? I currently only have artic silver 5 and I hear people use specific tim's for the cpu die.

*Image is circled as cpu-z gave inaccurate vcore readouts*
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Newer version of linx, IBT & prime95 that use the AVX instruction sets do really drive the temps up, you also have to watch using adaptive voltage when running them, the voltage will boost considerably & just make temps worse.
Worth delidding is always up to the user, there is some risk & it all depends if the risk is worth the reward, being able to run a bit higher voltage & get the clocks up with more temperature headroom.
The liquid metal TIMs like coollaboratory liquid pro & ultra (there are a couple other brand LM tims as well) are definitely preferred for on the die, you can still get better temps delidding & using normal paste since getting the layer of glue between the PCB & IHS makes a difference right away, but more dramatic results with the liquid metals, they are worth it for delidded chips.

All software is somewhat inaccurate for voltage, I've checked before with cpu-z, hwmonitor & hwinfo all giving slightly different readings, & none of them were the same as the actual voltage measured on a DMM. I think hwmonitor was closest to actual though, but software is the best most users have & as long as it is consistent & shows the changes, that is as good as it gets.
    
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I've been using the manual vcore setting along with the C7 state enabled since I've started overclocking, I read it doesn't affect stability in the slightest. Vcore sit's at something ridiculous like 0.125v idle. Is it safe to say AIDA is a qualified stability stress tester, that is to say in comparison to IBT, Prime and so on?

I hear there's hardly any risk involved with the vice method, obviously I'm not going to go at my 4670k with a knife. If I was to do it I take it the vice method is the best route of action.

I'll admit I honestly don't need the extra MHz, I'd want to do it... just because tongue.gif
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I've been using the manual vcore setting along with the C7 state enabled since I've started overclocking, I read it doesn't affect stability in the slightest. Vcore sit's at something ridiculous like 0.125v idle. Is it safe to say AIDA is a qualified stability stress tester, that is to say in comparison to IBT, Prime and so on?

I hear there's hardly any risk involved with the vice method, obviously I'm not going to go at my 4670k with a knife. If I was to do it I take it the vice method is the best route of action.

I'll admit I honestly don't need the extra MHz, I'd want to do it... just because tongue.gif

Just order a bunch of cheap CPUS from the list in the OP and practice on them. That´s what I did. You can get them for a few bucks.

And yes, breaking the CPU with the vice method is pretty hard. IF you do it correct that is.
It´s more likely to dmg it afterwards imo than during the delidding.

I used that guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OdkxgrfjWg
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Originally Posted by Frimbles View Post

Need some advice as to what I should do with my 4670k.

As seen in the picture below, I can run 4.6GHz @ 1.25v with the hottest core reaching 77 degrees Celsius. However I'm not sure if I'm stressing it right. AIDA produced the results in the image below, but to be certain I ran P95 28.4. My 4670k reached 95 degrees in literally a few seconds, never again will I run 28.4. Older versions of Prime produce roughly the same temperatures as the AIDA stress tests.

Is it worth delidding? I've booted into 4.8GHz @ 1.3v however it BSoD'ed after a few seconds, I'm guessing it's achievable with a voltage of say 1.31-1.32v.

If I was to delid would I need specific tim's? I currently only have artic silver 5 and I hear people use specific tim's for the cpu die.

*Image is circled as cpu-z gave inaccurate vcore readouts*




Thanks

Read the guide on OCN

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Ok I want to be in the club. I have an i7 3770k delidded and naked with the EK supremacy copper cpu block and indigo xtreme thermal interface. Running 4.8ghz 24/7 custom waterloop. Temps never higher then 58c at full load. So what now do I get a t - shirt lol.....

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Originally Posted by exodus1500 View Post

I am wondering if you guys could take a minute and look at my temps, I am not sure they are normal. here is my temp readings from aquasuite. I am concerned by the spikes, they drop down pretty quickly, but I am worried that I might not be making full contact between my water block and processor, which is naked.

These spikes are just running normal operations, like opening browsers, looking at a video, etc.

I am still able to OC it to around 4.6Ghz at around 80* in prime, though, so I am not sure.

My setup is a naked 4770k with a Bitspower Summit water block.

THANKS!!!!


Run full load and monitor the temps idle won't tell us anything.
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OH BOY!!!!!!!! Just an Update, The 4770K is naked AND 10 degrees cooler than after the initial Delid!!!




This is just an update. I know I am not sending the required info, but I haven't changed anything other than dropping substantial temps, making them more stable and even across the cores, and the ambient temp is approximately 5c warmer.. I can't help the Korean weather unfortunately.

Have a good day and Happy Delidding to All!!! (I am addicted, flat out)
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I am thinking about doing this even though I am voltage limited (so not to push OC higher, just temps cooler) as the summer months are coming and it will be getting hot folding all day. Delidding cold help keep my room a little cooler.wink.gif
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