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I have my 4770k, and I want to delid it. I am very good when it comes to precise, detailed tasks on a small scale and I have no doubts I can successfully remove an IHS with a razorblade. My only concern is: how often to chips actually go bad? What is the chance that a chip will burn out before the 3 year warranty is up, as I know that delidding voids the warranty

thanks
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I have my 4770k, and I want to delid it. I am very good when it comes to precise, detailed tasks on a small scale and I have no doubts I can successfully remove an IHS with a razorblade. My only concern is: how often to chips actually go bad? What is the chance that a chip will burn out before the 3 year warranty is up, as I know that delidding voids the warranty

thanks

Depends on many things.. most chips will last over 3 years if taken care of properly..
OCing can shorten its lifespan, but delidding can potentially lengthen the life of the chip since it offers better cooling.
The warranty doesnt necessarily void when you delid.. we have had a few chips die after delidding, of other reasons than "a blade through the chip" or "a hammer made it fly into a wall", and was successfully accepted under warranty.
As long as the printing on top of the IHS matches the chip and you havent done any damage to the CPU, they should accept it under warranty.
 
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I've done it both ways, had no issues either way, although the vise & hammer went faster. I spent a few minutes being careful with the blade, the hammer method was about 20 seconds, also seemed less risky than the blade (a few destroyed the PCB with a blade, there have been less hammer fails).

True. I've seen people do some dumb things with blades, me included. I used a retractable blade knife. We call them Stanley knives. I believe Americans call them box cutters.Left about 10-15mm of blade showing so I couldn't cut in too deep into the CPU or my fingers. Slowly worked it round and lifted the IHS straight off. The glue is only around the to make room for the paste. A razor blade is too easy to cut too deep. That whole vice and hammer style for me just leaves too much room for error.
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Whichever method someone is more comfortable with would probably be best, being nervous about doing it is probably the reason for at least some of the failed attempts with either method. Shaky hands while trying to keep the blade out of the PCB or while swinging the hammer could make things more difficult.
    
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I asked a intel rep via chat earlier today if delidding voids the warranty, he said removing the IHS would void the warranty.... I can post the text if u wanna read the chat log?

I'm the kind of guy that doesn't upgrade until my rig can no longer hold 20+ fps on current games, so my priority isn't overclocks but for the chip to last a good 5 years, I know low temps definitely help with that. what should be an acceptable max load temperature be if I'm interested in processor longevity? 80 C? I'm thinking that once I get the rest of my pc parts in the mail I will do some stress tests + overclock at 1.2 volts to see what temperatures I get with my Noctua D14 cooler...
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I have my 4770k, and I want to delid it. I am very good when it comes to precise, detailed tasks on a small scale and I have no doubts I can successfully remove an IHS with a razorblade. My only concern is: how often to chips actually go bad? What is the chance that a chip will burn out before the 3 year warranty is up, as I know that delidding voids the warranty

thanks

 

I've never seen a CPU fail for any other reason except for the blatantly obvious.  "Oh look here, the inside of this tower looks like dust bunnies have been making babies in it for the last 10 years...I wonder why it overheated?" ;)

 

Razor is my method of choice.  I've done (3) 4770K, (1) 3770K, and my 3570K is next on the chopping block.

 

Just take extra care to avoid the voltage regulator. It is on the side of the chip with the arrow and gold dot.

 

Odds are the delid will increase life expectancy since voltage requirements usually come down as well as temps.

 

Several people in this thread have RMAd their chips after delidding.  I think as long as you re-attach the IHS in a neat manner, you shouldn't have any issues.

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so if I delid, it works fine and something goes wonky a year down the line i should reattach the IHS with something like this? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Permatex-Ultra-Black-Hi-Temp-RTV-Silicone-Gasket-Maker/16777009

I am just an extreme engineer, I love modding my stuff so I think I am going to do this no matter what. Is the motherboard clip and heat sink sufficient in applying enough force to hold the IHS on without resealing? I will be using an Asus z87 PRO
Edited by funkyhunky - 4/7/14 at 9:18pm
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A small tip to all that are thinking of delidding their ivy bridge using the ham!er and vice method: get some emery board beforehand. You will need to sand down the edges of your chip to achieve optimal performance as there is a very high chance of doing some slight damage to the IHS. Only do this if you are using a full steel vice with no padding on the edges. I slightly damaged my IHS delidding and after a good sanding, I dropped another 10°c while under full load. In other words, be careful when you delid.
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so if I delid, it works fine and something goes wonky a year down the line i should reattach the IHS with something like this? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Permatex-Ultra-Black-Hi-Temp-RTV-Silicone-Gasket-Maker/16777009

I am just an extreme engineer, I love modding my stuff so I think I am going to do this no matter what. Is the motherboard clip and heat sink sufficient in applying enough force to hold the IHS on without resealing? I will be using an Asus z87 PRO

No, go find some Loctite Black Max glue, that stuff you listed is way to thick a substance for IHS.
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so if I delid, it works fine and something goes wonky a year down the line i should reattach the IHS with something like this? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Permatex-Ultra-Black-Hi-Temp-RTV-Silicone-Gasket-Maker/16777009

I am just an extreme engineer, I love modding my stuff so I think I am going to do this no matter what. Is the motherboard clip and heat sink sufficient in applying enough force to hold the IHS on without resealing? I will be using an Asus z87 PRO

I have silicone glue that should be similar to what you linked to at home. I used it a bunch of times (not on the CPU, I mean I used it somewhere else) and it really seems to be a very similar material to what Intel used to glue the IHS. At least it seemed like that to me comparing what I've seen after delidding my CPU. If you work cleanly, I can't imagine them noticing anything if you send a broken CPU in for RMA.

You don't need to worry about that bracket not holding the IHS well. Things really can't be moved at all after you pull that lever and clamp things down. It seems perfect to me, no need to do anything more.
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