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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

It is time to start the 5ghz IB club... Gimmie ur template wink.gif

Wait until we hit 25 members so 2 more people.
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Originally Posted by Lobsterman View Post

Ye Im just looking for the official word from Intel on this or the transcript that Vondutch had as I have someone on another forum claiming that this 1.52v is an "Urban Myth" rolleyes.gif so I want some hard evidence to present before I call him out on it.
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yes, i contacted intel support about the max voltages few weeks ago,
because its such a hot item for everyone, asking about it etc..
we/he went through their spec sheets to get those numbers,
he showed me where to find it on the sheets,
(dang, just noticed i didnt copy it, srry)
well, in the end, he told me , if i really wanted to go in depth,
i had to contact one of their engineers, gave me link etc,
but i was happy with the answers/help he gave me already,
so i went with the 1.52V vcore max from that day on.. smile.gif
1.5V vcore, is still under that 1.52, but with little fluctuations you might hit it ..
and when i asked intel about that and degradation/damage on the long run,
he said, if you keep voltages within the specs, there should be no problem at all..
o, someone commented me on this graph,
from sin0822 guide, said that was all wrong, and how i got that 1.52V number,
intel doesnt state that etc etc..same story as you tell me now..
thats why i contacted intel support about it, i hate being wrong, or not well informed..

"quote"
Intel Rec. Max is Intel’s absolute maximum rating for the Ivy Bridge lineup, many of the numbers
provided are identical to those of Sandy Bridge, however while vcore should be lower because
of a better processing technology (22nm vs 32nm) it is max 1.52v here because of the SVID max.
"end quote"
you can see that sin0822 even states 1.55V max on air,
o well, i still tell peeps to stay in the 1.3-1.35V vcore range,
max 1.4V, to be on the "safe" side..if they ask about safe vcores
it prolly would live long if you hit it with 1.45 - 1.5V, 24/7
if it doesnt, and it degrades fast or anything, it was a bad chip already to start with..
Hours later.....
found it, its in sheet 1, page 84, 7.10.1, Table 7-4
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
Symbol Parameter Min Typ Max Unit Note
VID VID Range 0.2500 — 1.5200 V 1
im not that technical etc, i see they talk about VID, and VID range, max 1.52V,
not max vcore, or its the same thing, not im not sure anymore either ..lol,
guess thats why the intel support guy said to contact a engineer biggrin.gif


the official data , you can find it here,
sheet 1, page 84, 7.10.1, Table 7-4
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
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Hello Sin0822 smile.gifthumb.gif

On Air/Water: Intel Rec. Max is Intel’s absolute maximum rating for the Ivy Bridge lineup,
many of the numbers provided are identical to those of Sandy Bridge, however while vcore
should be lower because of a better processing technology (22nm vs 32nm) it is max 1.52v here because of the SVID max.
in regard to this post i made,
http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/complete-overclocking-guide-sandy-bridge-ivy-bridge-asrock-edition/1860#post_18501975
can you tell me where you got the info from, the statement you made
about intel's recommended max is 1.52V?
a few times now peeps comment on me using the 1.52V as max vcore,
i did contact intel support about it, weeks ago, and he showed me datasheet 1,
sheet 1, page 84, 7.10.1, Table 7-4
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
im not that technical etc, i see they talk about VID, and VID range, max 1.52V,
not max vcore..
just want to make sure i can explain well to others,
and the why and where etc ...you know how it goes,
"we need proof"..other wise its bs ...lol
thanks in advance for helping,
or anyone else who can help me with this smile.gif

i didnt get a answer from Sin0822, me asking him where he got the "official" 1.52V from,
or what he calls "Intel Rec. Max"..
the 1.55V he mentions in his graph, is his own idea off the max vcore on air..

then DaClownie gave me this answer, i think its a very good one

I know for prior generations, the maximum allowable VID from the factory was considered the
maximum voltage for the processor. Not that that max VID was ever really spotted in the wild for consumer usage.
LGA775 was max of 1.45V VID, and that was widely considered the maximum you should operate
in a 24/7 environment, and that is obviously temperature permitting.
Edited by VonDutch - 11/8/12 at 11:15pm
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Wait until we hit 25 members so 2 more people.

Do you just need a cpuz screen or something more. Count me in during weekend. So we need one more biggrin.gif
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Do you just need a cpuz screen or something more. Count me in during weekend. So we need one more biggrin.gif
One of these. and W00T!

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I'll be adding my second chip info tomorrow so that makes 25
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wauw, almost 25 members .. thumb.gif
we need to get out there, and have more peeps delid..hahaha aim for 100 biggrin.gif
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my advice is use this super thin blade if you want to make things easier for yourself! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Do you all confirm this thin blade is the right tool to use?
Trying to insert it under the IHS on one corner and them moves it around?
Or only insert it under the IHS on one corner to make a 'hole' and then insert/move a non cutting tool in between the PCB and IHS trying to break the glue?
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Do you all confirm this thin blade is the right tool to use?
Trying to insert it under the IHS on one corner and them moves it around?
Or only insert it under the IHS on one corner to make a 'hole' and then insert/move a non cutting tool in between the PCB and IHS trying to break the glue?[/quote]

Id try that way and report to us how it goes.

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go easy with putting to much force on the pcb tho, while trying to break the adhesive..
you could bent it..

and keep the razor blade strait, dont want to bent that too,
its easy, because its so thin, just saying smile.gif

but you could tape one side, saves bleeding fingers if something goes wrong ..lol

thats why i like this one,


"a non cutting tool in between the PCB and IHS trying to break the glue?"

what are you gonna use for that?
Edited by VonDutch - 11/9/12 at 12:24am
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go easy with putting to much force on the pcb tho, while trying to break the adhesive..

"a non cutting tool in between the PCB and IHS trying to break the glue?"
what are you gonna use for that?
I used this one. very good control with it.
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