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I don't believe you can delid AMD. But I will be paying attention to the horizon to see if a nuclear cloud erupts from your direction. tongue.gif

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There are a few AMD chips you can de-lid, namely the Athlon 64's (most of them if not all?) Not certain but there are definetly de-liddable AMD chips.

You also have a big list in the first post and it specifically says that these certain chips can be done.

  • Athlon 64 3200+
  • Athlon 64 3700+
  • Athlon 64 3800+ (Venice Core)
  • AMD x2 5000+ BE - You'd think that the Black Edition would be soldered? lol

Of course all current AMD chips are soldered however, now that I've written my response that's probably what you meant.

Anyway just leaving it there for the internet incase anyone is interested.

Nope, apparently APU's are pasted too and can be de-lidded...

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that wont be that bad, they are all on the power side so as long as you put the chip in the vice right it'll come off without a problem, then just cover them and poof! instant temps for ages. Maybe Intel will redesign their TIM again though

This might almost rule out the razor method for Broadwell. Those things are really close to the edge.

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Phah! :yawn: Pee poor excuse of a comparison really.

They included Arctic Cool Ceraminque 2 which is ancient as bantha poodoo. But don't include KNOWN performers like Shin Etsu G751.

Ridiculously failsauce.

I doubt that G751 is better than CLU for delidding but cmon...
Did the owner of the company sleep with somebody's married mother or someone's wife? smile.gif

I have seen 3 so called comparatives now since the 80way TIM comparison and they've all been lacking.

Compare for yourself using the link in my Sig. No the testing rig ain't the same but the results are translatable due to the broader coverage of the subject.

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Your signature seems truncated on my end.

And where is MX-4? It is by far more popular than MX-2. I use MX-4 for general purpose use.

Also, it seems interesting that in his comparison the CLU/CLP results are reversed from the normal case where CLP ranks better than CLU. I use CLU myself, but just saying. Maybe he was swabbing the CLP too thin?

I notice personally with CLU in my own use, that there is such a thing as too little. I had to add to it twice after the initial, just to get the right amount on (I was trying not to overdo it).

Also, most "scientific" comparisons also tend to do multiple seatings to rule out any invalid results from bad mating.

And nothing irks me more than idiots who do professional writing and don't know the difference between "bear in mind" and "bare in mind" (he used the latter).... I was going to make a comparison naming in this sentence a radical segment of the American population with similar spelling issues....

I cudnt tell you why it's truncated ATM. I am on my phone so sigs don't show. Nor do Sig rigs an the like that we get in Desktop.

As far as MX4 the study was done in 09. Which is why MX4 isn't listed. It was not available then. So that's why I suggest comparing studies and differences in rankings.

Dunno what he did to get a different result between CLU/CLP. I've been curious about that myself but since I haven't used them I won't try to speculate other than agree that it could be in application.

I write so BIM doesn't phase me the way Pleaded does. Nobody who goes to court "pleaded" their case. They either plead or pled. That offends me so much when I pick up a Paper or read the news on the web and I see that simple mistake committed by "professional" writers and allowed to go to print by the Editorial staff. doh.gif

Compared to that, "Bare in mind" seems silly. biggrin.gif

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EDIT: Sorry guys. After all this is about delidding, not undelidded.
Edited by asm99 - 5/23/15 at 5:15am
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Sorry for the DP, but I had a thought that maybe you're referring to my in post Sig?

I shorten that intentionally. As to invite familiarity. thumb.gif

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I believe it's if your sig is too big for the allowed space it gets truncated.

The limit for signature length is 8 lines measured by the Fixed View.

http://www.overclock.net/t/617838/physical-limit-on-signature-lines
Edited by alancsalt - 5/21/15 at 12:30am
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Ah okay. I think I will be cleaning my Sig at some point soon but ATM the wife is expecting and we're on the road more since this is the last month so I live on my phone more and the desktop is down for modification. Probably will get on it when I take the laptop to our next appointment. My bro has it ATM. tongue.gif lol

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Ah okay. I think I will be cleaning my Sig at some point soon but ATM the wife is expecting and we're on the road more since this is the last month so I live on my phone more and the desktop is down for modification. Probably will get on it when I take the laptop to our next appointment. My bro has it ATM. tongue.gif lol

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Good luck with that!!

As for the sig, here's what I see:


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Sanding CPU for better cooling performance

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5995/workshop-sanding-cpu-for-better-cooling-performance

Remember, lapping (the name I've always heard it referred to by) the IHS voids the warranty. It's one of the things listed in the booklet that comes in the box. The IHS lettering must be legible.

If you choose to lap it, you may as well delid as well. A voided warranty is a voided warranty.

You may also want to verify the flatness of the cold plate on your cooler. Some are convex to better fit the natural concaveness of the IHS.
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Are you saying there's no point because it can't be done or because solder has the best w/mk value? Everything I've read (and I'm still looking) says that liquid metal tim beats solder by a fair margin, but I'm not a real expert, just kind of doing some light reading
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Are you saying there's no point because it can't be done or because solder has the best w/mk value? Everything I've read (and I'm still looking) says that liquid metal tim beats solder by a fair margin, but I'm not a real expert, just kind of doing some light reading

It must have been very light reading wink.gif

CLU is 38.4 W/mK whereas the solder used in CPUs is between 60-80 W/mK depending on the ratio of tin / silver / etc.
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