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Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post

Idle can never be below the ambient temp(Dry Ice, Phase,LN2). Idle temps are untrusted. How can a CPU be cooler then the air around you when air cooling?

This is the post I was referring to.
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Originally Posted by Lobsterman View Post

Another 1 here with below ambient temps, like 9 degrees below ambient, even with my Phanteks fans not running. Seems not right.
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post #2832 of 33558
Ok, I have been busy working on my system the last few days.

On the question of which tool I would recommend it would be the single-sided razor-blade, but a single-sided (with tape) would be good too. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
delidding tool of choice

Here are some pics showing what CL Ultra looks like after a month of use between the die and IHS, and the IHS and the HSF. Interesting - It was still liquid on the die, but it had dried out between the IHS and the HSF. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CL Ultra after one month of use
CL Ultra after one month of use
CL Ultra after one month of use
CL Ultra after one month of use

I am now using CL Pro and it is about ~2C better temps than CL Ultra: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Edited by PCWargamer - 11/11/12 at 10:38pm
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Ok, I have been busy working on my system the last few days.
On the question of which tool I would recommend it would be the single-sided razor-blade, but a single-sided (with tape) would be good too. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
delidding tool of choice
Here are some pics showing what CL Ultra looks like after a month of use between the die and IHS, and the IHS and the HSF. Interesting - It was still liquid on the die, but it had dried out between the IHS and the HSF. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
CL Ultra after one month of use
CL Ultra after one month of use
CL Ultra after one month of use
CL Ultra after one month of use
I am now using CL Pro and it is about ~2C better temps than CL Ultra: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
dillided & lapped IHS with CL PRO temps Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I also tried out a new mother board, the MSI MPower Z77. It is a very good board I would recommend for OCing, but it ended up not being enough of an improvement over my older Z68 to justify the cost to use as an upgrade for my existing system so I returned it after lots tests and benching fun. I would consider it again for a new build. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Yah it tends to be 2c - 5c

But heck the difference between 2c is the same as a difference between a 40$ cooler and an 80$ cooler so it is pure win imo..
    
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Originally Posted by Socks keep you warm View Post

What is your on DIE Paste?
I'm water cooled also but am receiving piss poor temps still.
70C at 5Ghz and your at bloody 50! I hate you sir.

Super pie doesnt load cpu 100%,
i just checked, its about 16-17% with mine,


5ghz, hottest core 45C


5.2ghz, hottest core 55C

my daily oc, 4646mhz, i just did this super pie run, 7.15am

hottest core 42C, ambient is about 12C atm

if you run super pi, and its 70C ..thats not very good
Edited by VonDutch - 11/11/12 at 10:47pm
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I also tried out a new mother board, the MSI MPower Z77.

It is a very good board and I would recommend it for OCing, but it ended up not being enough of an improvement over my older Z68 to justify the cost for an upgrade of my existing system - so I returned it after lots tests and benching fun finding this out. But I would consider it again for a new system build.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Testing and benching a new motherboard
Testing and benching a new motherboard
In case


Edited by PCWargamer - 11/11/12 at 11:11pm
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Msi is not to well known for all that good of Mbs.. There Gpu guys lol.

Asus And Gigabyte and you can not go wrong in the MB dept... And if on a Tight budget Asrock.
    
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

I also tried out a new mother board, the MSI MPower Z77.
It is a very good board and I would recommend it for OCing, but it ended up not being enough of an improvement over my older Z68 to justify the cost for an upgrade of my existing system - so I returned it after lots tests and benching fun finding this out. But I would consider it again for a new system build. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Testing and benching a new motherboard
[IMG ALT="Try New MB - Some improvement, but not enough...so returned
Not a bad board at all, and very good looking!
Good choice for a new build, but not as an upgrade for my current system."]http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1125284/width/500/height/1000[/IMG]
[IMG ALT="Try New MB - Some improvement, but not enough...so returned
Not a bad board at all, and very good looking!
Good choice for a new build, but not as an upgrade for my current system."]http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1125283/width/500/height/1000[/IMG]
In case
Testing and benching

yea, thats a good looking mobo, this is inside my case,


i took out the lower part for hdd's, so the front fan can blow in air better without obstruction from that hdd cage..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Msi is not to well known for all that good of Mbs.. There Gpu guys lol.
Asus And Gigabyte and you can not go wrong in the MB dept... And if on a Tight budget Asrock.

yea hokies, gigabyte and asus, i really like asus too,
might be my next mobo, till not i only had gigabyte tho..
i payed about 120 euro for my Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H
Asus P8Z77-V LE costs 10 euro more
Edited by VonDutch - 11/11/12 at 11:17pm
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Has anyone here tried a direct-die mount on a H100 or H80 by any chance?
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Msi is not to well known for all that good of Mbs.. There Gpu guys lol.

Asus And Gigabyte and you can not go wrong in the MB dept... And if on a Tight budget Asrock.

I have had very good experience with Asus MB's and mainly buy their MB's, but MSI went all out on this new MPower and it shows.

This was the first MSI MB I every bought or even really considered. I will note that Asus BIOS is still much better than MSI's.

This MSI board was as good as the reviewers noted and the board performed well and looked great too! But not enough to justify the upgrade over my existing Asus P8Z68-V/Gen 3.
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So, on an H100/3570K, is it worth the Delid? and what tim is suggested if so?
 
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