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Originally Posted by tdbone1 View Post

can someone give me some manual settings to get to 4.4 or 4.5gthz (for a bad overclocker) normally 4.2 @ 1.275v?

i just tried upping vcore to 1.32 @ 44x multi for 4.4GHz and still a nogo

i dont think i need more vcore it must be imc or mch or w/e its called thats being used when programs like linx are used

something to do with the memory controller i bet.

in the bios there is a feature called ez-tuning and if i use the wizard and let it auto pick my settings for (non-gaming) system with the worst cooler you select it puts me at 4.3ghz stable so far but why cant i do it manually

i cant get stable at all above 4.2ghz and now that i have the cooler im not really worried about overheating it and killing it like i was worried before.

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Read the first post in the Haswell Overclocking thread here on OCN, there's a link in my signature. There's a little more to overclocking Haswell besides just changing the vcore and multiplier.
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Read the first post in the Haswell Overclocking thread here on OCN, there's a link in my signature. There's a little more to overclocking Haswell besides just changing the vcore and multiplier.

that is why i provided my findings and settings.

i already did the guide before and many more.

i have a "bad overclocker" but now that i have my temps under control what can i do to make more frequency ghz.
increasing vcore did not make me stable

going from my stable 1.275v @ 4.2ghz (42x multi) to 4.3GHz (43x multi) would not be stable even while increasing volts to 1.32v

ok so its probably the memory controller right?
    
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that is why i provided my findings and settings.

i already did the guide before and many more.

i have a "bad overclocker" but now that i have my temps under control what can i do to make more frequency ghz.
increasing vcore did not make me stable

going from my stable 1.275v @ 4.2ghz (42x multi) to 4.3GHz (43x multi) would not be stable even while increasing volts to 1.32v

ok so its probably the memory controller right?

You've made absolutely no mention of your Input voltage or your cache settings, which is why I referred to to the Haswell thread. If you're only messing with the multiplier and the vcore, then that would be part of your problem right there. There aren't any "cookie-cutter" settings that will work on everyone's system, since everyone's chips are different.
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You've made absolutely no mention of your Input voltage or your cache settings, which is why I referred to to the Haswell thread. If you're only messing with the multiplier and the vcore, then that would be part of your problem right there. There aren't any "cookie-cutter" settings that will work on everyone's system, since everyone's chips are different.

did you look at my pics in my previous post?
they all there
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did you look at my pics in my previous post?
they all there
vin

No, those pics most certainly don't show what you have set for the Input voltage or the cache speed and cache voltage. Both of the areas that would show that are closed. On top of that, it looks like that program is fairly limited in what it shows. I recommend you try out HWInfo64, its free (no paid version) and it should give you more information. thumb.gif

These are the parts that would need to be open, but after taking a closer look at the screens above, the info you get in the voltage section is limited.


This is some of what HWInfo64 shows, and what parts I'm referring to:
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did you look at my pics in my previous post?
they all there
vin

Increase VRin input voltage. Typically a forced voltage a bit over 1.8xx will help things stabilize.

Keep in mind higher clocked RAM will complicate things. 2133 is a pretty decent spot to be for RAM clock so if you're past that you could try to reduce it to help a little. I always OC CPU separately from RAM even if there is an XMP available and it is on the QVL for my MoBo.
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Increase VRin input voltage. Typically a forced voltage a bit over 1.8xx will help things stabilize.

Keep in mind higher clocked RAM will complicate things. 2133 is a pretty decent spot to be for RAM clock so if you're past that you could try to reduce it to help a little. I always OC CPU separately from RAM even if there is an XMP available and it is on the QVL for my MoBo.

im at 1.9v in

i think it has something to do with power limiting maybe

my ram is at stock 1600 2T
    
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im at 1.9v in

i think it has something to do with power limiting maybe

my ram is at stock 1600 2T

Could try taking it higher. Do you have the option for LLC, Load Line Calibration, on VRin and 'standard' core voltage. I typically set them to max, this has helped with stability.

I've had 2 haswell i7 chips that were stuck in that vicinity. One wouldn't exceed 4.3 and the other 4.4 no matter what I did to them...could just be a lousy chip.
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post #29219 of 34072
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im at 1.9v in

i think it has something to do with power limiting maybe

my ram is at stock 1600 2T

What do you have the uncore/cache multiplier and voltage set to? Also, are you using Adaptive or Manual voltages?
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im at 1.9v in

i think it has something to do with power limiting maybe

my ram is at stock 1600 2T

 

Edit:

 

Could try taking it higher, but I have had motherboards start automatically increasing core voltage when you start pushing VRin higher.  Do you have the option for LLC, Load Line Calibration, on VRin and 'standard' core voltage.  I typically set them to max, this has helped with stability.

 

Just read you tried E-Z Tuning, and I would really suggest to stay away from that.  Any brand motherboard uses WAY too much voltage with those auto settings.  That could very well be the reason you got 4.3Ghz with auto and not manually.   It could be 'safe' if your temperatures are still within reason, but every Z77, Z87 and Z97 board I have used and tried the 'auto tune', it has given significantly more voltage than was necessary for a given overclock.

 

If you want some step-by-step for adaptive voltage you can read my build log post here:  http://www.overclock.net/t/1456279/honey-i-shrunk-the-ultra-tower-beast-my-journey-to-creating-a-more-compact-pc-with-an-r9-290/40_20#post_21876051

 

This was the guide I used to help me along: http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell/


Edited by Roboyto - 10/9/15 at 6:26pm
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