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Go for it lol. I tried all night long for 2 hours trying to get it I even went as far as 1.7 Vcore (Yeah I know). I'm gonna have to wait until tomorrow night for another run....darn roomate....... mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

but youre temps where still good?

im still a bit confused about using 1.6-1.7V vcore in relation to temperature
lets say i can get to 5.4ghz with 1.7V vcore, with temps not even reaching 80C,
is it ok to do or?
Edited by VonDutch - 10/10/12 at 12:37am
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Do you know what the temp difference is between PRO and ULTRA between the die and IHS? How significant? Cause I have some ULTRA on the way and I hope it works. I still expect it to be better than what I have now (AS5), but I'd like to know how much better PRO is than ULTRA. Any good links to delided tests and results between the two?

No one knows because nobody has had both to test!

This is the last time I want to read this lol. I've read it to many time for myself, no offence or anything to anybody......cranky I couldn't get 5.4 Ghz........Plus We go back and forth on this Pro and Ultra argument every day or so lol.
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Do you know what the temp difference is between PRO and ULTRA between the die and IHS? How significant? Cause I have some ULTRA on the way and I hope it works. I still expect it to be better than what I have now (AS5), but I'd like to know how much better PRO is than ULTRA. Any good links to delided tests and results between the two?

it will do better then AS5, let me look today if i can find tests between PRO and ULTRA,
will be hard i think, most tests are the "normal" ones, with IHS on..no De-lidding.
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No one knows because nobody has had both to test!
This is the last time I want to read this lol. I've read it to many time for myself, no offence or anything to anybody......cranky I couldn't get 5.4 Ghz........Plus We go back and forth on this Pro and Ultra argument every day or so lol.

No one knows indeed, but most benchmark show that the better the thermal conductivity, the better the TIM does under the IHS, that is why I think Pro will be better. However, the difference will probably be small and as long as nobody does a good Pro vs Ultra test we can not be sure there even is a difference.
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No one knows because nobody has had both to test!
This is the last time I want to read this lol. I've read it to many time for myself, no offence or anything to anybody......cranky I couldn't get 5.4 Ghz........Plus We go back and forth on this Pro and Ultra argument every day or so lol.

maybe we can ask it different,
is there anyone, here or elsewhere, who had a 20+C temp drop
using different compound then CLP on the Die ?

i can only compare what ive used, that is AS5 and after that liquid pro,
let the pic's speak for its self..

after de-lid, using AS5, oc 4.545ghz

80C hottest core


after de-lid, using coollaboratory liquid pro, oc 4.545ghz

55C hottest core
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it will do better then AS5, let me look today if i can find tests between PRO and ULTRA,
will be hard i think, most tests are the "normal" ones, with IHS on..no De-lidding.

That would be great thumb.gif If you are going to do this, might I ask you to repeat the tests (replying the TIM) as many times as you are willing to do? Because I am afraid that if you do a single comparison, you might end up with results that are not very reliable which would be a shame as you put time and money in doing the test.
(Edit; oops, read your post wrong, I thought you were going to do the test biggrin.gif)

And you are right, because most tests are done with the IHS on, these tests have no relevant information for us unfortunately. Even if Pro or Ultra are better on top of the IHS, this might not be the case under the IHS.
Edited by Conquistador SW - 10/10/12 at 12:13am
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That would be great thumb.gif If you are going to do this, might I ask you to repeat the tests (replying the TIM) as many times as you are willing to do? Because I am afraid that if you do a single comparison, you might end up with results that are not very reliable which would be a shame as you put time and money in doing the test.
(Edit; oops, read your post wrong, I thought you were going to do the test biggrin.gif)
And you are right, because most tests are done with the IHS on, these tests have no relevant information for us unfortunately. Even if Pro or Ultra are better on top of the IHS, this might not be the case under the IHS.

lol, i could, but having it run like it is now, with my temps,
im afraid to ruin it, and never get the same results again,
"never change a winning team" .right smile.gif


my idle temps at noon, 12 o'clock, 30 min idle

looks like the lowest is about the same as my ambient temp next to my computer.. 13C
hope winter will be here soon haha, cant wait for -10 or -15C biggrin.gif
comp is not in my livingroom, but in the hallway, no heater there so
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Well, that's nice to know....where did you get those rules? Are they, like, official type rules from somewhere?
Makes me think I might be able to get to 5.3...hmmmm.....

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Go for it lol. I tried all night long for 2 hours trying to get it I even went as far as 1.7 Vcore (Yeah I know). I'm gonna have to wait until tomorrow night for another run....darn roomate....... mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

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but youre temps where still good?
im still a bit confused about using 1.6-1.7V vcore in relation to temperature
lets say i can get to 5.4ghz with 1.7V vcore, with temps not even reaching 80C,
is it ok to do or?

I wouldn't pump more than 1.55v on air, even for benching...Plus, that should be enough to get you up there. You're causing instability by forcing that much vcore, generating higher temps that demand more vcore. It's a vicious circle! Read Sin's guide, he explains that there.
You should try to disable HT and disable 2 cores. That's what those max cpu-z validation guys do, world record and whatnot. It's not cheating, hwbot guys do it.
And you don't need to freeze your room, just make some sort of tubing to connect the cold air outlet of your ac to the intake of your case.
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lol, i could, but having it run like it is now, with my temps,
im afraid to ruin it, and never get the same results again,
"never change a winning team" .right smile.gif
my idle temps at noon, 12 o'clock, 30 min idle

looks like the lowest is about the same as my ambient temp next to my computer.. 13C
hope winter will be here soon haha, cant wait for -10 or -15C biggrin.gif
comp is not in my livingroom, but in the hallway, no heater there so
You may want to watch your humidity levels when you start to get those kind of ambients. Condensation is a distinct possibility, you may want to consider a dew point indicator of some sort. Otherwise it is a good use of mother nature to help lower your temps. thumb.gif
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You may want to watch your humidity levels when you start to get those kind of ambients. Condensation is a distinct possibility, you may want to consider a dew point indicator of some sort. Otherwise it is a good use of mother nature to help lower your temps. thumb.gif

will do,
i read somewhere that Condensation starts at 6C ?
nice and shiny Die btw ..lol thumb.gif
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