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I have a delidded my 4790k done with coolabs liquid ultra about 1 year ago and wonder how long the liquid ultra lasts before it should be redone again. Does this stuff ever dry out. Just curious, my temps are still darn good at 4.8 oc-1.275 core volts,27 cel idle and 60 cel max while stressing with x264.

What I've experienced is there isn't really a need to replace the material, until you see some temperature differences of around 5C excluding ambient air temperature changes. Should be all good! thumb.gif
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I will back Valguar on this. You have no worries about the TIM degrading or drying out, the only time I personally would re-apply would be if somehow I had shifted the IHS, for instance changing cooler, releasing the retention bracket, or putting the chip into a new motherboard. You could physically mess up your application of TIM and at that point you should redo, but if you leave it alone, there are no worries. thumb.gif
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http://overclocking.guide/the-truth-about-cpu-soldering/

It's not about cutting costs or cutting corners, it's easy to belive that's the reason when you dont know anything about why it's done.
Yet the Xeons that are made to last longer etc. are all soldered aren't they and then the cheapest consumer CPUs have crappy paste which after numerous complains from everyone they changed to a different paste which is OKish but still far from a top notch TIM. Sure soldering CPU isn't easy but the fact remains Intel is soldering the more expensive CPUs even those meant for constant use and many cycles yet the cheaper ones use paste.

Said article shows DIY home soldering of a CPU die and no reason why Intel is not soldering the consumer CPUs. I know the issues that exists from soldering and heat changes. Fact remains Intel is cutting corners and doesn't change it until enough reviewers and users complain about the poor TIM performance. They may have good engineers but they screwed up the Haswell TIM nonetheless.
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Would be nice if intel would sell non-lidded processors.
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Would be nice if intel would sell non-lidded processors.

Email them and get it going, I seriously can't be bothered with the IHS soaking up all that heat. 1.55v and still didn't hit the thermal limit on my 4670k.
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I guess if you do a bulk order in a million pieces range quantity spread over 1-2 years they will sell you some biggrin.gif
But truth be told, even tray versions without cooler are often more expensive than boxed versions with cooler lol
So go figure really with Intel, the less you get the more you pay gunner.gif
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I guess if you do a bulk order in a million pieces range quantity spread over 1-2 years they will sell you some biggrin.gif
But truth be told, even tray versions without cooler are often more expensive than boxed versions with cooler lol
So go figure really with Intel, the less you get the more you pay gunner.gif

Lol pretty much, still waiting for my FX 9590 to turn up so I can crank it up. The gf won't let me delid her 6600k and shim it lol so I might keep this Z170 sabertooth board I have spare and get one of my own. Then delid, naked mount with a shim. biggrin.gif
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I have a delidded my 4790k done with coolabs liquid ultra about 1 year ago and wonder how long the liquid ultra lasts before it should be redone again. Does this stuff ever dry out. Just curious, my temps are still darn good at 4.8 oc-1.275 core volts,27 cel idle and 60 cel max while stressing with x264.

 

Just keep an eye on your temperatures.  If they are still holding strong, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

 

People run into issues when they use traditional pastes on the die.  I however have experienced that Xigmatek PTI-G4512 does NOT pump out even over the course of ~2 years.  I am running it on my naked 4770k with great results.  

 

I briefly tested Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut in its place and found that despite there being a large difference in thermal conductance ratings, 2.5w/mk ~vs~ 12.5w/mk, the Xigmatek performed just as well as the Kryonaut...that was until the Kryonaut pumped out after ~1 week and my temperatures went WAY up; leaving the Xigmatek as the superior thermal paste in this scenario.  

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Just keep an eye on your temperatures.  If they are still holding strong, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

People run into issues when they use traditional pastes on the die.  I however have experienced that Xigmatek PTI-G4512 does NOT pump out even over the course of ~2 years.  I am running it on my naked 4770k with great results.  

I briefly tested Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut in its place and found that despite there being a large difference in thermal conductance ratings, 2.5w/mk ~vs~ 12.5w/mk, the Xigmatek performed just as well as the Kryonaut...that was until the Kryonaut pumped out after ~1 week and my temperatures went WAY up; leaving the Xigmatek as the superior thermal paste in this scenario.  
Right on.Thanks everyone for the info.
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Just keep an eye on your temperatures.  If they are still holding strong, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

People run into issues when they use traditional pastes on the die.  I however have experienced that Xigmatek PTI-G4512 does NOT pump out even over the course of ~2 years.  I am running it on my naked 4770k with great results.  

I briefly tested Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut in its place and found that despite there being a large difference in thermal conductance ratings, 2.5w/mk ~vs~ 12.5w/mk, the Xigmatek performed just as well as the Kryonaut...that was until the Kryonaut pumped out after ~1 week and my temperatures went WAY up; leaving the Xigmatek as the superior thermal paste in this scenario.  

Ive tested a couple TIMs and they pump out quite quick, however on a low powered chip its perfectly fine. Im using hydronaut on a 3350p and temps are cooler and it does not pump out. On my 4690k it didnt seem to last long about a week or so. Noctua TIM pumped out and temps changed within a day. This was also bare die though without an ihs.
    
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