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Just use a vice. Easy and completely safe.

Naked mount can certainly crush the die with uneven pressure. Neither easy nor completely safe. Nor is it necessary at all for an i5; even with my h80i and relidded 4690k i hit thermal and voltage limit at the same time. With a custom loop you'll be voltage limited, not thermally.
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^ very true (pending the loop size)
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Just use a vice. Easy and completely safe.

Naked mount can certainly crush the die with uneven pressure. Neither easy nor completely safe. Nor is it necessary at all for an i5; even with my h80i and relidded 4690k i hit thermal and voltage limit at the same time. With a custom loop you'll be voltage limited, not thermally.

I was on 1.55v and didn't hit thermal limits. biggrin.gif

EDIT: Hmm can't find the correct image on here to back that statement up.
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I was on 1.55v and didn't hit thermal limits. biggrin.gif

EDIT: Hmm can't find the correct image on here to back that statement up.
how long is that sustainable though? I'm genuinely asking because I'd love to run over 1.4v 24/7 but I'm a little worried I'll start wearing down my 4790k.
edit: temps are no problem thumb.gif
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how long is that sustainable though? I'm genuinely asking because I'd love to run over 1.4v 24/7 but I'm a little worried I'll start wearing down my 4790k.
edit: temps are no problem thumb.gif

Not sure, I don't really care much for degradation because by the time I know about it we'll all be overclocking 8700k's. If anyone can show me some testing to show how fast a chip degrades after 1.3v I'd love to give it a read.
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Not sure, I don't really care much for degradation because by the time I know about it we'll all be overclocking 8700k's. If anyone can show me some testing to show how fast a chip degrades after 1.3v I'd love to give it a read.
I just went through 20 pages of the Haswell Death thread and didn't come up with much. Most there said 1.4 should be fine, but overall there wasn't really any good reports of degradation or death. If you find anything, let me know! thumb.gif
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There was a guy on reddit who claimed slight degredation (less than 100 mhz) after running 1.4V for 6 months with 80C everyday temps. He believed if he'd kept it under 75C he would have been fine.

People on g3258s love to run up to 1.45V.

If you set 1.45V as the absolute voltage limit, and stay under 70C with it, a custom loop on a delidded 4690k is more than you need.
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Just use a vice. Easy and completely safe.

Naked mount can certainly crush the die with uneven pressure. Neither easy nor completely safe. Nor is it necessary at all for an i5; even with my h80i and relidded 4690k i hit thermal and voltage limit at the same time. With a custom loop you'll be voltage limited, not thermally.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. So, the way to go about naked mounting would be to mount it with low pressure from the block. If it doesn't boot, tighten and keep applying more pressure till it does?
Just so I don't end up crushing it outright. I think I've read somewhere that there needs to be a certain mount of pressure applied to the cpu for it to work/make contact with pins.

I'm delidding for fun more than anything. Not expecting too much.
post #30619 of 34182
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. So, the way to go about naked mounting would be to mount it with low pressure from the block. If it doesn't boot, tighten and keep applying more pressure till it does?
Just so I don't end up crushing it outright. I think I've read somewhere that there needs to be a certain mount of pressure applied to the cpu for it to work/make contact with pins.

I'm delidding for fun more than anything. Not expecting too much.

If you have an EK block then buy the EK naked mount kit and you won't need to worry, just don't be a silly sausage and tighten one side down fully, do it equally. It's really easy to do and you tighten it all the way down.


Edited by Benjiw - 6/26/16 at 7:25pm
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"Tighten all four screws down a quarter turn at a time until it posts."

Pretty sure that is from this thread. Many pages back.
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