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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

Well if the motherboard is flat then the cpu will just sit in the socket resting on the pins as per normal then you put your block on top and tighten down slowly like you used to back in the day of old bare die chips.

The cpu can only really go in one way so the process is still the same minus the latch to hold it in.
Right.

Just realized that since my case is an S8, the mobo is already horizontal, lol.tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post

Yea i mean its really bowed i put the ihs back on and theres a bit of a gap between the wafer and the IHS so its definitely bowed. Im not sure whats causing the RAM issue but if the contact between the cpu and pins is poor then i could possibly see it happening.

I think its bowing because of the pressure its putting on the die, then since theres nothing under it in the socket under the die its resting on the socket and bending. Im kinda pissed it happened but even more pissed that i tried to bend it back and destroyed it. If its not the cpu and the board needs to be RMAed ill be really pissed haha.

Had a quick power outage yesterday but my PC is on a surge protector, plus it worked fine for hours yesterday. I got one overnighted will try it tomorrow and see what happens. If the ram still doesnt work in 3-4 or will all the sticks in then RMA time.

For me it dropped from 53°C to 46°C going to bare die. If its not the cpu causing the RAM slot issue though not sure if ill go bare die again. Ill definitely delid and CLU it but not sure about bare die. I think the IHS def adds some good rigidity to the wafer so who knows.

Well, don't feel bad about trying to straighten the cpu pcb a bit, I'm sure I would have done the same.

Actually, I have done lots of foolish things like that in the past.tongue.gif
Hopefully, the board is ok.

That's a pretty good temp. drop from going bare die, 7C is certainly tempting.
As they say, ymmv though.
Certainly delidding, and still using the IHS, with CLU on the die, will provide a decent drop for me.
My 4970K is waiting to be installed, so I'm going to do some brief testing with it un-delidded first, so I'll have something to compare to.
I don't want to, I'd like to use that lovely delidding tool now, but I must be patient, lol.
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Right.

Just realized that since my case is an S8, the mobo is already horizontal, lol.tongue.gif
Well, don't feel bad about trying to straighten the cpu pcb a bit, I'm sure I would have done the same.

Actually, I have done lots of foolish things like that in the past.tongue.gif
Hopefully, the board is ok.

That's a pretty good temp. drop from going bare die, 7C is certainly tempting.
As they say, ymmv though.
Certainly delidding, and still using the IHS, with CLU on the die, will provide a decent drop for me.
My 4970K is waiting to be installed, so I'm going to do some brief testing with it un-delidded first, so I'll have something to compare to.
I don't want to, I'd like to use that lovely delidding tool now, but I must be patient, lol.

My gf used my i5 rig for months before I touched it but as soon as I had it I delidded it so don't have a comparison. 1.5v nets me a few degrees under thermal throttle due to bare die.
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Don't know personally, but I ran out of PLM and I am out of CLU, so while the previous is noted, I can't do anything about anything now.

In my opinion I may have over done the Phobya for a temporary solution, however I think the die with CLU might just be the camera, because I have never had a problem.
I've never used LM on the IHS since I've heard it doesn't make a large difference (2-3C from kryonaut or similar TIM) but I push a pinhead sized bead (~1mm) onto whatever I'm using to spread it and start working it in. Seems like it takes a few strokes to get it to stick and start smearing. Then I'll add another bead until I get this below. I used to do it a bit thinner (no "lumps") but I gained a few degrees by adding a tiny bit.




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Does this seem like a bit to much ? rolleyes.gif
Temps are all over the place, I quess I know what I`m doing tomorrow, draining the loop and reapplying redface.gif
Maybe a tiny bit too much, but I've never used it on the ihs since I've always been too worried about having rollout issues with such a large surface to deal with. I went back a page and saw your post, I don't think that going from 50-60 is too crazy depending on what you are doing at that time. Some things have more stable temps than others but most things don't stay very constant.
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Right.

Just realized that since my case is an S8, the mobo is already horizontal, lol.tongue.gif
Well, don't feel bad about trying to straighten the cpu pcb a bit, I'm sure I would have done the same.

Actually, I have done lots of foolish things like that in the past.tongue.gif
Hopefully, the board is ok.

That's a pretty good temp. drop from going bare die, 7C is certainly tempting.
As they say, ymmv though.
Certainly delidding, and still using the IHS, with CLU on the die, will provide a decent drop for me.
My 4970K is waiting to be installed, so I'm going to do some brief testing with it un-delidded first, so I'll have something to compare to.
I don't want to, I'd like to use that lovely delidding tool now, but I must be patient, lol.

Sad face. Got my chip put it in, turns out the RAM slot isnt dead but one of my memory sticks might be. I was at 1.2 45x before, tried to boot and bios just gives me error A2. Reset and tried 1.2 43x and running stress test now. I was around 53-54°C in the same temps couple days ago same voltage, now factory chip is at 60°C. So between deliding and adding CLU i lost 6-7°C. Not sure if this one is worth deliding although 60°C is a bit warm but ambient here is about 28°C with no AC so doesnt help.
    
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Sad face. Got my chip put it in, turns out the RAM slot isnt dead but one of my memory sticks might be. I was at 1.2 45x before, tried to boot and bios just gives me error A2. Reset and tried 1.2 43x and running stress test now. I was around 53-54°C in the same temps couple days ago same voltage, now factory chip is at 60°C. So between deliding and adding CLU i lost 6-7°C. Not sure if this one is worth deliding although 60°C is a bit warm but ambient here is about 28°C with no AC so doesnt help.

Go naked again, I would lol but then again I'm probably going to keep mine pinned at the highest OC I can with 1.4v+. biggrin.gif
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Go naked again, I would lol but then again I'm probably going to keep mine pinned at the highest OC I can with 1.4v+. biggrin.gif

I just might, i also forgot to turn my pump back up since its pwm, dropped 9°C off my gpu and 3°C off my cpu just doing that haha. Back to normal temps. Kinda sad i lost 200mhz for the same voltage but what are you gonna do lesson learned. I have 2 sets of naked screws so might as well knowing its not the issue. I just need to order more clu, stuff wiped right off the block too so not an issue, stained it pretty good but thats about it.
    
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I just might, i also forgot to turn my pump back up since its pwm, dropped 9°C off my gpu and 3°C off my cpu just doing that haha. Back to normal temps. Kinda sad i lost 200mhz for the same voltage but what are you gonna do lesson learned. I have 2 sets of naked screws so might as well knowing its not the issue. I just need to order more clu, stuff wiped right off the block too so not an issue, stained it pretty good but thats about it.

I need some Isopropyl Alcohol to clean CLU off, my block is scuffed from trying to rub it off with 70% alcohol. I'm not worried about it bowing anymore I'm pretty sure that it will be fine as long as I just stick to not bending it back, I'm sorry about your loss but I guess hindsight is a beautiful thing? Check the simple stuff first next time, but still, I probably would of done the same.
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I need some Isopropyl Alcohol to clean CLU off, my block is scuffed from trying to rub it off with 70% alcohol. I'm not worried about it bowing anymore I'm pretty sure that it will be fine as long as I just stick to not bending it back, I'm sorry about your loss but I guess hindsight is a beautiful thing? Check the simple stuff first next time, but still, I probably would of done the same.

It happens. I used one ram stick in all the slots and the last two wouldnt boot up. Figured those 2 didnt work, might have been that you need one in slot 2 to make it work for dual channel. Its the same stick that gave me issues couple months ago with it boot looping. I cleaned it in the first place put it back in and it worked fine. It might end up giving me issues in the long run i think.

I can finally try out my delid too on haswell though, worked awesome on ivy bridge. Now i can use it on the new chip without having to worry about anything. Maybe even film it and put it up here.
    
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For those that use nail polish for covering the transistors on the CPU... how many layers do you guys use? Any specific brand? Now that I'm getting my GTX970 back I think I'll use some CLU again on it, but this time ditch the tape for something more protective...
I'm sure my SO wouldn't mind a trip to Ulta...with ulterior motives involved...

I think it depends on the brand. The one I used I had to do quite a few layers and it still felt like I could have done more. Probably depends how much you put on but the stuff I had was pretty thin. From the pics I see of others it seems there is better and thicker stuff out there. Just be careful you don't want it to get taller than the die.
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It happens. I used one ram stick in all the slots and the last two wouldnt boot up. Figured those 2 didnt work, might have been that you need one in slot 2 to make it work for dual channel. Its the same stick that gave me issues couple months ago with it boot looping. I cleaned it in the first place put it back in and it worked fine. It might end up giving me issues in the long run i think.

I can finally try out my delid too on haswell though, worked awesome on ivy bridge. Now i can use it on the new chip without having to worry about anything. Maybe even film it and put it up here.

Nearly time to boot up my 4670k again, just one more hardline tube to bend and then use the UV glue on the caps and get to overclocking and work again.
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