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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

yea, thought i would beat that one with 5.1ghz, that was my plan ...LOL
cant do 5.2ghz tho for cinebench, vcore would be crazy ..lol

So it would probably take 5.2 then. lol, just out of reach without a bit too much voltage.
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Originally Posted by FtW 420 View Post

Probably could run 5Ghz with good water, delidded chip I'm running now needs 1.32V vcore for 4.6Ghz , it could do 5Ghz under 1.5V but just too hot for the h50 or TRUE 120.
Been folding at 4.6 almost 2 days now on the TRUE, hottest core has gotten to 80°.
will see about that after deliding. former one gave me good results (31C temps drop) and could push it up to 5GHz daily stable .. however that chip was broken (former faulty board screwed it up) so it ended up in RMA. this one now is different, hoping it requires less vcore jump between clocks as former one did (was awful past 4.9GHz).
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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

Interesting guide, although I would put the ln2 max at infinity since the chip will most likely die in a week anyway lol, ive seen 2.2+. My bios goes to 1.9 I think I cant remember off the top of my head. Do you have to raise any voltage to get ram speeds higher than 1600, my ram crashes at anything higher and is rated at 2133 1.5v, running it at 1600 now with loose timings.
do you have 2x 8GB sticks or 4x4GB ones? if the later then that's your problem. try using 2 sticks only and see if they run correctly at XMP. other than that, many boards dislike Vengance 1.5V kits, especially the 4-stick ones are more designed for X79 then for Z77 in fact. Z77 likes best the 2-stick kits, 4-stick kits on this platform require some compromise in either timings or voltage or speed (or all of them together).
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Originally Posted by ChaosAD View Post

Other than benching you will not notice any difference at all. But althought i know that i had to run 2400 min tongue.gif
On another note i run some Cinebench R11.5 x64 tests to check performance difference per 100Mhz. So i got:
4.8Ghz @ 1.36v - 9.57pts
4.9Ghz @ 1.41v - 9.81pts
5.0Ghz @ 1.49v - 10.02pts
5.1Ghz tried up to 1.55v but got an error
Anyone tried at 5.1Ghz+ and at what vcore?
I had 10.10 @ 5.0GHz with 2200MHz ram running 10-11-10-30 2T 4x4GB biggrin.gif
5.1GHz called for way too much vcore on my former chip (between 1.65-1.70V).
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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

My ram is rated at 2133mhz @1.5v. Ive tried xmp, but it does not boot half the time, sometimes it will after 5 resets, it seems stable once it boots however. I also tried setting the values manually, no luck, can't even get 1866 out of it. Ive tried 1.65v no luck. My phenom before this had a memory problem where I could not run dual channel, and now this with my ivy. Ive tried gskill trident x also rated at 2400mhz 1.65v, no luck there either, I even tried 1.85v on that ram and same problem. i rma'd and newegg sent all 4 dimms back 100% broken, did not even boot, and they ignored my emails... i am quite unlucky with ram frown.gif
have you tried running MemTest86+ on 1 stick at a time at XMP settings to see if it passes? could be a bad stick (or more) in that kit of yours.
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

10-20% performance clock for clock is plenty upgrade for me wink.gif

now after you said it ... I will think about smile.gif, but I think I'd need to hit a lotto before I upgrade the MB+CPU+RAM so early again ... could wait a few months after its release for some better price drops and mature MB BIOS to avoid extra expenses and bumpy ride in early adopters time frame ... it's tempting though biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by feniks View Post

ehhh, I think I might pass on Haswell ... don't want to replace the MB again or go through the early BIOS BS problems again ... might stay with IB 1155 and drive it to the ground hehe wink.gif
how does intel call the next generation of 14nm chips? that's what I might wait for with major system upgrade next time.

same here, didnt "Intel" say the same about Sandy and Ivy, 10-20% improvement..
haswell will have a "great" improvement on the igpu, compared to ivy, but i dont use that so ..
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So it would probably take 5.2 then. lol, just out of reach without a bit too much voltage.

yea, but you know me, if its cold enough outside, -15 to -20C, i might just give it another try,
whatever vcore i need, i want to beat that Xeon's 10.33 points cinebench ..lol
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same here, didnt "Intel" say the same about Sandy and Ivy, 10-20% improvement..
haswell will have a "great" improvement on the igpu, compared to ivy..

Haswell is the Matured 22nm Chip..10-20% is very likely and 5ghz Overclocks on Air are also...
    
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yea, but you know me, if its cold enough outside, -15 to -20C, i might just give it another try,
whatever vcore i need, i want to beat that Xeon's 10.33 points cinebench ..lol

lol, I hear you. and I'll be watching for you to beat it! thumb.gif
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Haswell is the Matured 22nm Chip..10-20% is very likely and 5ghz Overclocks on Air are also...

we'll see smile.gif
i can only say something about it, if they are on the market for a while..
up till now, whats being said all around, yea, the matured 22nm..
but theres no really big improvements, they will make us (ivy owners) go ..wow!!
except the igpu, that way they will serve the big market more,
and they get closer to the amd on board igpu's..
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we'll see smile.gif
i can only say something about it, if they are on the market for a while..
up till now, whats being said all around, yea, the matured 22nm..
but theres no really big improvements, they will make us (ivy owners) go ..wow!!
except the igpu, that way they will serve the big market more,
and they get closer to the amd on board igpu's..

10 - 20% clock for clock + Higher overclocking Is Huge improvement IMO...

Not to mention a whole new socket with all new tech..
    
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Dude use the ultra you have between the die and IHS and the IHS and heatsink. That is what I am using, and it works fantastic. I used a tiny drop and the little brush to apply to both the die AND the underside of the IHS, and the same thing on the other side. The key is just a thin, thin coating!

I think that may be my problem. Not doing both surfaces. I did use a thin layer of the CL liquid Ultra but only on the die, not the underside of the IHS. Around thanksgiving I am going to try to get a slightly better motherboard open box from microcenter. They have a the v-pro's open box for $160 and the UD5H for $140 and it says "complete package" with 15 day return. I may give one of those a try and at that point I will re-apply the TIM to the die too.
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Is it recommended to use liquid pro for gpu blocks to. I don't want my little 690 die and chips to get rip offed if I take it off lol. I kind of want of want my die to be "Soldered" with the pro onto the ihs, but not anything else, should I just get another liquid ultra?
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