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I've been very curious to know what happens when running delidded cpu with CLU between die and ihs instead of Kryonaut at sub zero temperatures. I've asked a lot of guys at HWBot and been told by all it's a bad idea, even at -45Cish under Single Stage. I took a blob of CLU and sprayed a bit of ln2 vapour/air and immediatly the gallium turned white and hard as steel so this made me nervous. After reading old research studies on Gallium from the late 30's I also learned that it will expand with cold, may be only 3% but that's still something that can crack the die while under pressure. Recently came accross a review that state CLP will remain fully functional at temperatures between -273C and +1200C so this got me interested again.



I decided to give it a try on a silicon lotto loser i3 6300 since I don't really care if it dies and results were very promising. I used XTU as my load test and right around 1.5v using Kryonaut I would begin seeing positive temps regularly, under 10C but they were there. After applying a thin layer of CLU to the die and underside of the ihs and Kryo above I was able to push load volts as high as 1.675v before I saw any positive numbers a voltage that would spike to the low-mid 30's pre clu. This gave me confidence to try a better/hotter cpu, my 6700k and here are those results at 5g




I can actually set up to 1.5 load volts and stay just under 0C, and can now use lower volts for 5g low clock challenge since the cpu scales a bit with the cooler temps. It's still early in my testing but after testing 2 Skylake cpu's on SS Phase I'm seeing close to a 30C temp swing, roughly the same results I saw from delidding with CLU on water
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Apologies for the double post. Just posting an update on my Haswell system.


I got into the system relatively quickly when I used Hiren's 15.1.1 Offline NT/2000/etc Password Changer and simply read each question thoroughly and guessed at what I needed to do to get in. Took a bit though. Now I'm just avoiding a restart until I figure out what I need to do to turn off the PW login. Been so long since I've run Win7 with purpose. thumb.gif


Installed my 5770 to get some idea what the crappy GT720 is capable of by comparison. If I were to believe Windows Experience the 720 is better. But that was without the AMD Catalyst downloaded and installed. WE for the 720 was a 6. WE for driverless 5770 is a 1. doh.gif


Once I get things better sorted out is it worth delidding the 4790? mellowsmiley.gif


~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

If you didn't need a password and you are in windows then the password has been removed and you don't need to do anything else.  If you want to add a password then you need to go to user accounts. thumbsupsmiley.png

Yup, PW was indeed removed. Won't be applying one to the system either. Never know of or when I'd see a bug shut me out of my system. I've had friends whose laptops were borked to the point where access was impossible without a new drive and OS. And I've no pr0n on my system and nothing to hide anyway. thumb.gif

So now back to the question of whether it's worth delidding the 4790 or even if I can. I'm a Folder and could certainly use the points from this chip. It's got the stock cooler on it so I'm thinking that it would indeed help if it's that poo Intel put under the lids or if this is one of the later non poo chips. I can't stuff one of the Hyper coolers I have inside the stock case and nothing else in this system is worth water cooling and I'm not sure I really want to mod this XPS case for larger fan openings. Although the front could be modded to fit a 120. thinking.gif

So yeah...? biggrin.gif

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Hey guys,

I delidded my new 6700k yesterday, I thought I've done a perfect job until I get the 55 post code which is related to the memory... I have 2 ram slot and only the second one work.

Unfortunately there's a small scratch on the PCB, I heard people putting small piece of paper,nail polish or conductive grade silicon to fix this problem.

Any recommendations?
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Hey guys,

I delidded my new 6700k yesterday, I thought I've done a perfect job until I get the 55 post code which is related to the memory... I have 2 ram slot and only the second one work.

Unfortunately there's a small scratch on the PCB, I heard people putting small piece of paper,nail polish or conductive grade silicon to fix this problem.

Any recommendations?

Hopefully you didn't scratch the tracers, if you did and it went thru then could be why its not working.

Otherwise i would check your ram make sure it doesnt have anything on it that could also cause a problem.
    
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Hopefully you didn't scratch the tracers, if you did and it went thru then could be why its not working.

Otherwise i would check your ram make sure it doesnt have anything on it that could also cause a problem.

I've done hours of stress test and everything run fine... except for the first ram slot
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Yup, PW was indeed removed. Won't be applying one to the system either. Never know of or when I'd see a bug shut me out of my system. I've had friends whose laptops were borked to the point where access was impossible without a new drive and OS. And I've no pr0n on my system and nothing to hide anyway. thumb.gif

So now back to the question of whether it's worth delidding the 4790 or even if I can. I'm a Folder and could certainly use the points from this chip. It's got the stock cooler on it so I'm thinking that it would indeed help if it's that poo Intel put under the lids or if this is one of the later non poo chips. I can't stuff one of the Hyper coolers I have inside the stock case and nothing else in this system is worth water cooling and I'm not sure I really want to mod this XPS case for larger fan openings. Although the front could be modded to fit a 120. thinking.gif

So yeah...? biggrin.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

 

I know for certain the 4790k chips had improved thermal compound, it was how they reached 4GHz factory; I would assume that the standard 4790 would receive the same treatment?

 

Either way, it is absolutely worth delidding the chip regardless of what cooler you will be using.  If you're going to chop the top, you may as well get the most out of it however and use liquid metal paste under there.  

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I've done hours of stress test and everything run fine... except for the first ram slot

Could be that you scratched the part that connects the RAM to the CPU?

I thought i had the same issue and ended up ruining my CPU, turns out my ram that was corroded from my previous water install was still causing intermittent issues. Everything is a possibility. Depends how deep its scratched/gouged.
    
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Could be that you scratched the part that connects the RAM to the CPU?

I thought i had the same issue and ended up ruining my CPU, turns out my ram that was corroded from my previous water install was still causing intermittent issues. Everything is a possibility. Depends how deep its scratched/gouged.

every parts are 1 day old and everything worked fine before i delid... I could probably return the mb and take another one that has 4 ram slot or buy another CPU but I wonder if there's anything I can try before doing so?
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every parts are 1 day old and everything worked fine before i delid... I could probably return the mb and take another one that has 4 ram slot or buy another CPU but I wonder if there's anything I can try before doing so?

Try both sticks in the ram slot that works, that should rull out the ram sticks. Besides that theres really not much to test.
    
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Try both sticks in the ram slot that works, that should rull out the ram sticks. Besides that theres really not much to test.

already done that, so I'm sure the lil scratch is causing this problem... some people are putting liquid electronic tape to cover the scratches but will it fix the problem or just prevent any more damages?
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