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Originally Posted by 0ldChicken View Post

I understand that more V is more heat, but I'm topping out at 65°c with x264v2 when using 4.8ghz and 1.39v. change it to 1.41v, keeping 4.8ghz and the temps rise a few degrees before crashing within seconds. I've spent hours going through my bios and tweaking various settings and combos of settings but I haven't come up with a solution yet. I plan on getting more info together and posting in the haswell or devil's canyon thread when I get the time.

I just find it really strange that I instantly crash with 1.4v+ now. Used to not be an issue other than the heat, which is now less of an issue...

Thanks for the reply Benji smile.gif

Make sure all your thumb screws are tightened all the way down but not with a lot of force, if you go mad with them you can cause issues with there being too much pressure which I learned the hard way lol.

Yes I under stand but keeping it as cool as possible is your main goal in reducing volts as far as possible I'd say you've done that pretty well. Are you adjusting cache and voltage and or input voltages also?
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Just delidded my 2nd cpu. i7 3770k used razor method successfully for the 2nd time too smile.gif.


Yiiiiis yiiiiiiiiis thumb.gif Post info and I'll add it!

As for the chats, I'm for discussions, just watch the finger wagging and name calling (I know it never happened per se, but just a forethought) biggrin.gif
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Yeah, good point to bring up.thumb.gif

I've seen a few members here referring to "silicone" as "silicon" which is not correct.
Or was that "silicone" instead of "silicon"?
Whatever, lol.biggrin.gif
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OCN name:Jimbags
CPU: i7 3770k
on die-TIM: CLU
ihs-TIM: Kryonaut Thermal grizzly
Mhz gained: didnt do before test but @ 4.5 1.3v
OC after delid: as above
Temp drops:Max temp intel burn test on very high is 67c
CPU-Z validation of max OC:Shown in pic
Havent messed with oc or voltage this is just my initial settings but pretty pleased so far thumb.gif
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What are you guys bickering about? Get back to the topic at hand, or youll get the thread locked.
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You obviously don't play chess.

You can't play chess if the other player is throwing the board on the ground and having a fit. You refuse to view any evidence so here I pulled it out for you:



He measured the height of the cpu before and after delidding to get the height of the shim.

What evidence do you have other then your presumptions?
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Can we all ignore him now, it's obvious he doesn't want to listen and he's just going to cause someone to get an infraction and or the thread locked.

Blue, ignore him for goodness sake.
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You can't play chess if the other player is throwing the board on the ground and having a fit. You refuse to view any evidence so here I pulled it out for you:



He measured the height of the cpu before and after delidding to get the height of the shim.

What evidence do you have other then your presumptions?

Wow would you just look at that, it literally mirrors everything everyone else in this thread has experienced...
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Is it;

1) Every recent Intel consumer grade CPU has an issue because of the design and use of sealant?
2) Some recent Intel consumer grade CPUs have an issue?
3) In no way is it possible to have a proper thermal interface because of the design and use of sealant?

Feel free to amend the above or even add other discussion points.
It is not an issue with the design because they chose to do it possibly for multiple reasons.
1) The sealant provides a barrier of protection from moisture
2) They leave a small channel without sealant likely to give it breathing so heat has no way to build up under the IHS
3) The small gap protects from you crushing the die during handling or getting damaged during shipping.
4) The "issue" is easily resolved by using cooling sufficient enough to dissipate it

Really delidding is for the additional cooling. It is not really a design flaw as much as it is designed to easily be stuck together and sealed and protected with more then enough dissipation. They aren't giving you the best possible they are giving you what is efficient. The TIM is still good but they have been known to fail in application (very rare) which is when someone may see a spike in 1-2 cores because one side of the die is not getting sufficient contact which is where delidding would fix the issue (since new TIM is applied). Of course after years of use TIM should be replaced but even MX-4 is rated to last 8 years but pumps out from under the IHS in days so they are using a more of a solid TIM that works and lasts a very long time likely exceed the life of the CPU if it is applied correctly. After 5+ years of use especially with overclocking any TIM would need replacing but that is not the fault of Intel who did all their testing at stock and likely rated the TIM at 10+ years.
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The IHS was invented because people used to put their coolers on wrong and damage the die. I don't use mine, I see no reason to and my cooling is pretty epic as I can go all the way up to 1.6v without hitting thermal limits.
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Yeah the IHS makes contact with the die without sealant. That is probably part of the reason regular paste pumps out because the gap is actually extremely small (even when touching there is still gaps). Liquid metal fills the gaps acting like solder but paste just pushes away and due to not enough metal particles filling the small gaps it doesnt make full contact? That is just my guess but I think people have gone naked and paste pumps out though too right? You would think the gap would vary from mount to mount and would be further away than the IHS would be and they still have that problem so I really am not sure what happens there.
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