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Is it unusual to the the IHS be extremely hard to remove?
I tried the AquaComputer Skylake "twister" the other day I had 3D printed and I broke the tool, I had a hard time.. broke a few drivers etc. Then finally broke the tool.
I am ready to Delid my 6700k and I am wondering how dum-dum proof is using the Razer method? I Delidded my 4790K with a vice, then returned the vice to Home Depot, but I know the vice method isn't the go to method anymore, espesh for Skylake.
Since razer blades are pretty cheap, compared to an actual tool*I spent 10 bucks for the 3D printed one*, I may go this route..
Thoughts?

I would go for vice only method anyway. It worked out well for me on 6700k. You just have to use a vice with plain jaws. Apply the force and wait a liitle bit so the glue can slowly start to creep
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I would go for vice only method anyway. It worked out well for me on 6700k. You just have to use a vice with plain jaws. Apply the force and wait a liitle bit so the glue can slowly start to creep

I dont have any experience with skylake to be sure but it seems like it would be safer and easier to do the vise method like hes suggesting. You can rotate it and slowly break it free

If you can 3D print something you can also try the vise 3D tool shown here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o-rDGHZH4s

probably a little safer.
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Anyone use hair dryer to separate then?
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At the moment i delided successfully 3 skylake processor using a razor blade and a credit card. With the razor blade i only make the initial cut on one corner, then i sharpen the credit card with a iron file and use it as a blade. With this method you reduce a lot probabilities of damage the pcb or the die.
For my 4690k i used the vice no-hammer method thumb.gif
Edited by lexer - 9/26/16 at 4:52pm
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At the moment i delided successfully 3 skylake processor using a razor blade and a credit card. With the razor blade i only make the initial cut on one corner, then i sharpen the credit card with a iron file and use it as a blade. With this method you reduce a lot probabilities of damage the pcb or the die.
For my 4690k i used the vice no-hammer method thumb.gif

That's good stuff right there!
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I would go for vice only method anyway. It worked out well for me on 6700k. You just have to use a vice with plain jaws. Apply the force and wait a liitle bit so the glue can slowly start to creep

Having seen plenty of damaged Skylake chips I'd recommend against it personally but ah well, same with the razor method...

Personally I'm for working smarter not harder, I use a razor to shave with, not a bowie knife even they they both can do the same thing....
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I would go for vice only method anyway. It worked out well for me on 6700k. You just have to use a vice with plain jaws. Apply the force and wait a liitle bit so the glue can slowly start to creep

Having seen plenty of damaged Skylake chips I'd recommend against it personally but ah well, same with the razor method...

Personally I'm for working smarter not harder, I use a razor to shave with, not a bowie knife even they they both can do the same thing....

Lawl, that is actually pretty funny, but wouldn't you feel like a badass with that bowie.

I want to see pictures of this iron file and credit card blade. I want to see a credit card that can go to town on a delid more than my "girlfriend" on Fruit Ninja.
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Lawl, that is actually pretty funny, but wouldn't you feel like a badass with that bowie.

I want to see pictures of this iron file and credit card blade. I want to see a credit card that can go to town on a delid more than my "girlfriend" on Fruit Ninja.

You can use a plastic card so long as it's thin enough and strong enough.

I watched a video of someone doing it, basically you use a blade to start off a corner then you use the card for the rest.
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Lawl, that is actually pretty funny, but wouldn't you feel like a badass with that bowie.

I want to see pictures of this iron file and credit card blade. I want to see a credit card that can go to town on a delid more than my "girlfriend" on Fruit Ninja.

I don't have any processor at the moment redface.gif. Also this type of tools for smartphones does the job
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Yes the gap. very small. But why shim if the argument was the glue creates the gap in the first place?

I assume the shim was in place of the glue? Why shim and not re-glue? Is it possible the glue can be thinner than the shim dependent on clamping force?

Here's AS5 on a bare naked AMD chip.

Looks like a good contact and spreading, a little pump out there, but no hardening. Cannot remember the length of time used, but was likely a couple of months on a daily set up. Ranging from burn in to every day use and benchmarking.

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Full spread technique with a nice thin coat.



Not to bust your chops or anything but...

What were your temps like with that much AS5 between the cooling plate and your CPU?

Forget delidding try less Thermal paste and one with a one day or burn in period. stun.gif

Don't get me wrong AS5 back in the day, was THE best. But there are so many solid performing pastes out now that give AS5 fits. Hell I am an old skool guy and I swear by G751. Stuff cures in a day and you won't even notice a temp fluctuation after burn in. Maybe a slight one but it's unnoticeable in my experience. Stuff compares well against AS5. Link in my sig. It's old for sure but where AS5 is concerned it's still relevant. thumb.gif

Hopefully I mistook the intent of the pic log you posted? mellowsmiley.gif

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