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Originally Posted by Caos View Post

Yes, I have a 7700k to 4.9 with voltage 1.30, the temperature peaks are on the desktop in idle. Playing BF1 I reached 66 ° C. would I have to re-open my chip?

I would still say no, depending on youre cooling solution and if the mounting is good
66 degrees is well below any throttling temperature


I've just seen youre post in the kaby lake overclocking guide
I think no one responded right?


err

well
66 degrees with a "mild" overclock and only 1.3v is kinda high in "only" a game

going by this chart (I know it doesn't list battlefield 1, but at least battlefield 4) you would probably run into higher temps if using a stress test




how did you exactly delid?

did you use a liquid metal paste (there are 4 different I know of, if you count liquid pro and ultra as 2 different)

did you use any kind of glue?
did you use a lot?

are you sure youre cooler is mounted alright

did you use only a bit of paste between cooler and IHS?(less is better) and what kind of paste?

and what kind of cooler do you use anyway?
AiO
custom loop

air cooler of some kind?


did you confirm stability of youre overclock with anything besides Battlefield?


idle temps are fine
maybe temps at load are fine too depending on the cooling solution you have

the spikes of 30 degrees?

well I wouldnt worry if they are the same temp as under load, or less
something in the background is probably just waking up the CPU and pushing it for a second or 2 (could be anything really, teamspeak, antivirus, sensor software and so on)

but I do would confirm the overclock with a tool and not "just" a game

I had a look at my temps back when I had an air cooler (run of the mill, nothing special)
5.1 Ghz, 1.375v 67 degrees after 8 hours of RealBench
but with a 7600k, ht does make for higher temp on average, keep that in mind



so youre temps do seem a bit on the high side of things considering I used more voltage and more frequency on an 30€ air cooler


bottom line

considering youre "load" temps are kinda the same as those spikes the delid is most likely fine

the spikes will come and shouldn't last long

but the temp I would say is a bit high under load considering its only mild settings as far as kaby lake overclocking goes

but still nothing to worry about temp wise (maybe noise wise, as in fans spinning up)
Edited by peter2k - 4/9/17 at 10:51am
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What is that ? A laptop ?? Which model ?

That's insane 😁

I just repasted my UX31A, only 17W TDP, still able to thermal throttle... discovered it was a bare i73517u... I won't be able to put some liquid metal 😑



P870KM1, see signature for full specs

Overclock to 4.9ghz with some voltage tuning


Actually bare die is easier to put liquid metal on, I have done it in many other laptops with mobile CPU which does not have an IHS.




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Nice! Don't need/want SLI but a laptop that exhausts out the back and takes a desktop CPU and 64MB of RAM... do want. biggrin.gif
post #32824 of 33114
Finally pulled the trigger and de-lidded both my 7700k CPU's...

I can't believe how easy it was with the Rockit 88 tool... Dropped around 13 - 15 C so I'm happy..

On one I used the Cool Laboratory Liquid metal, and on the other I used the Kryonaut Thermal Grizzly stuff... I have only tested the liquid metal one so far... I'll test the other when I have time and compare the temp difference if any...

On another note, I have a friend that's a high level manager at Intel here in Portland, OR and I showed him the pics of what I had done and explained that Intel should really have another chip offering that has this already done from the manufacturer... He said he would bring it up and see what they say...


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Nice! Don't need/want SLI but a laptop that exhausts out the back and takes a desktop CPU and 64MB of RAM... do want. biggrin.gif

comes in single card variant too

with the vapor heatsink and some thermal pad work, the GPU will never cross 55c on a 24c ambient room (no cooling pad, just back raised)

the gpu is 190w tdp for the 1080, regardless if SLi or not
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post #32826 of 33114
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Finally pulled the trigger and de-lidded both my 7700k CPU's...

I can't believe how easy it was with the Rockit 88 tool... Dropped around 13 - 15 C so I'm happy..

On one I used the Cool Laboratory Liquid metal, and on the other I used the Kryonaut Thermal Grizzly stuff... I have only tested the liquid metal one so far... I'll test the other when I have time and compare the temp difference if any...

On another note, I have a friend that's a high level manager at Intel here in Portland, OR and I showed him the pics of what I had done and explained that Intel should really have another chip offering that has this already done from the manufacturer... He said he would bring it up and see what they say...
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Nice job.

I'm sure that Intel is quite aware of delidding, it seems that they have been attaching the IHS for the lowest cost and ease of manufacturing.

It would be nice if they could come up with a method of attaching the IHS that allows it to properly contact the die of the chip, but that would require the use of LM to avoid tim pump out.

Unless they solder it on, as with some of their other cpus, lol.
    
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I was thinking more along the lines of Intel offering a higher end chip that they actually applied the IHS correctly... I'm sure they're aware of de-lidding, and I'm sure the reason for their process is time and money... But they could easily offer another product that they spend a bit more time and do it correctly essentially doing what we do with de-lidding, but have it done correctly to begin with.. I'm sure many would pay more to avoid de-lidding it themselves...
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I was thinking more along the lines of Intel offering a higher end chip that they actually applied the IHS correctly... I'm sure they're aware of de-lidding, and I'm sure the reason for their process is time and money... But they could easily offer another product that they spend a bit more time and do it correctly essentially doing what we do with de-lidding, but have it done correctly to begin with.. I'm sure many would pay more to avoid de-lidding it themselves...
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I was thinking more along the lines of Intel offering a higher end chip that they actually applied the IHS correctly... I'm sure they're aware of de-lidding, and I'm sure the reason for their process is time and money... But they could easily offer another product that they spend a bit more time and do it correctly essentially doing what we do with de-lidding, but have it done correctly to begin with.. I'm sure many would pay more to avoid de-lidding it themselves...
Yeah, that would be a nice option.

Avoiding the hassle as well, lol.
It's cool that you have a "contact" within Intel, and were able to mention it to him.
Who knows, eh?biggrin.gif
    
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up!

anyone can help with this?
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