Originally Posted by TheInternal
Been reading up a bit on what others have done / what's worked for delid and/or relid on a 7700k before I make the leap.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but some observations I've made;
- Delid without relidding the IHS offers too little gain considering all the modding you have to do to your socket to get a decent connection between the CPU and heatsink
- a liquid metal TIM sounds like the way to go for the chip to IHS heat transference
- removing the original IHS sealant is a pain in the ass / can result in damage to the PCB if not done carefully
- "silicon gasket maker" sounds like the most popular way to go for remounting the IHS due to higher chance of damage from gluing
- most folks use too much silicon the first time they remount their IHS, so going super sparingly would probably make sense
- most folks seem to be using relatively pricey delidding kits and relidding kits, and having positive experiences with them
Some questions / concerns I have;
- Does remounting the IHS with silicon result in the same firmness as the original Intel sealant? What exactly is the original sealant / can it be obtained by consumers at a reasonable price point?
- Does the waxed dental floss delid approach actually work? Seems feasible and low risk... really tempted to try it since I'm pretty broke after buying all these computer parts.
- What's the best bang for the buck on safe relidding tools?
So, I'm not really looking to OC as much as I want to simply lower temps on my 7700k. At 100% sustained load at stock settings, I easily went into the mid 90C range. Yikes. I'm running the chip in a cramped Node 202 case with a Cryorig C7 cooler, so it's not exactly getting a lot of airflow. Undervolting has gotten the chip to the high 80C range at max load, and a more reasonable mid to high 70C range during Time Spy stress testing... but that's still much warmer than I would like. With average decrease in the 15C-20C range for many folks from a delid, it seems like it'd be worth the effort.
Being a long-time computer nerd, I remember most of the builds I did not involving any processors with a new-fandangled "IHS" thingie... just straight CPU die to thermal paste and a heat sink. I kinda wish there was an easy way to just run the processor naked without a crapload of high risk modding needed
Like said before, the delidding tools are a very good idea, and not just for noobies. It's faster, and much safer. With a vice you risk bending or breaking the PCB (provided that you own a vice in the first place), and with a blade you risk scratching the PCB resulting in a dead or partially working chip. You can use duct tape on one side of the blade to be a bit safer though.
Aside from the cheap plastic 3D printed ones (which you still need a vice to use them, so rather pointless), there is 2 delidding tools currently for Kaby Lake :
Delid Die Mate 2
Rockit Cool 88.
The Delid Die Mate 2 is a little faster to use because it has only 1 screw. The Delid Die Mate 1 had 6 screws, but it was already fast and easy to use, the Delid Die Mate 2 is child's play at this point really.
It has an include relid kit.
2 major drawbacks though IMO :
First, it doesn't provide a base to hold the CPU while you clean off the glue and thermal paste, as opposed to the Delid Die Mate 1 and Rockit Cool 88.
Second, the availability is really bad right now. I originally ordered it march 6th, it was tagged available starting from march 13th, but once the date passed, it stated a different date, and so on. I got tired of it, plus I realized that it couldn't be used as a holder to clean off the CPU after the delid, so I canceled the order a week ago and bought the Rockit Cool 88.
1 thing that I really didn't like and never accounted before, they charge a 2 € fee if you don't choose the option "pay upfront".
The Rockit Cool 88 is the better choice in terms of the product itself IMHO, but 1 drawback : the price is the same as the Delid Die Mate 2, but the relid kit is not included, it's sold separately for 8 $.
The Rockit Cool 88 is shipped from the US, the Delid Die Mate 2 from Germany.Edited by Shadorino - 4/14/17 at 6:55pm