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Damn my retailer said, that the Delid Die Mate 2 Batch is in its finishing stage, but it'll take 1-2 Weeks until i get it -.-
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I bought the Dr. Delid from AquaComputer...works just as well smile.gif
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So I'm looking for a little expert advice here. Got a 7700k that will clock to at least 5.1 but becomes hot as the suns bunghole. Been doing some reading about delidding and will probably go ahead with it. My only real concern is the liquid metal TIM. So what happens if you put on just to much and it makes its way to the pcb?
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So I'm looking for a little expert advice here. Got a 7700k that will clock to at least 5.1 but becomes hot as the suns bunghole. Been doing some reading about delidding and will probably go ahead with it. My only real concern is the liquid metal TIM. So what happens if you put on just to much and it makes its way to the pcb?

Kaby lake don't have capacitors/VRM like older models. But on the sustrate have some test pad. So be carefull when you apply the TIM or put a small piece of tape on the pads close to the die

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Kaby lake don't have capacitors/VRM like older models. But on the sustrate have some test pad. So be carefull when you apply the TIM or put a small piece of tape on the pads close to the die


What kind of tape would you recommend putting over them?
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What kind of tape would you recommend putting over them?

If you do it carefull isn't necessary. But any type of electrical tape only or nail varnish on the pads close to the die thumb.gif
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The little string of 4 in a row are the only ones that go back under the IHS, the rest will be outside.

And it's hard to picture how little of the liquid metal TIM you need to cover this tiny die. That stuff really spreads out, but it's not uncontrollably sloshing around, it just spreads out really well. So don't start off with too much and I don't think you'll have anything to worry about.
Edited by GnarlyCharlie - 4/27/17 at 12:04pm
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Been reading a lot on the new delid and relid tools...
my last go around (4770k) I did the old vice trick and used an ek direct die kit....
so for this go around I'm using an nzxt x52 kraken.... do I have to reattach my ihs? Or can I just ad my liquid paste in and then just mount the chip
Place the ihs on it with no glue or silicone etc and add my cooling solution back on and use it's pressure to keep her together?
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Been reading a lot on the new delid and relid tools...
my last go around (4770k) I did the old vice trick and used an ek direct die kit....
so for this go around I'm using an nzxt x52 kraken.... do I have to reattach my ihs? Or can I just ad my liquid paste in and then just mount the chip
Place the ihs on it with no glue or silicone etc and add my cooling solution back on and use it's pressure to keep her together?
You just put the latch mechanism back on the board and that will hold the IHS on the CPU. It may try and slide around a bit but a finger should be able to hold it in place thumb.gif
edit: i suppose if you don't have the latch then you could use the cooler to hold it all together but it'd be a lot harder to keep everything aligned
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I got my DDM2 Delidtool much earlier then expected ^^

Here's my Data:

Intel i7-7700k tray
Be QuietQ AIO Silent Loop 280
Asus Maximus XI Hero
2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3200Mhz (using XMP)
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A DVD-Rom Drive!!!
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OCN name: theGucky
CPU: i7-7700K
On-die TIM: Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut
IHS TIM: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Mhz gained: potentionally 500Mhz
OC after delid: 4,5Ghz/5Ghz
Temp drops: For 4,5Ghz 10-15°C/ For 5Ghz 25-30°C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: https://valid.x86.fr/r1b01s


Used CinebenchR15 and Prime 95 v28.10 to test.

The reason I gave 2 Numbers is simple, I don't want to OC my CPU, but I wanted to know if I can do 5Ghz.
Also im a noob when it comes to OC, I've tried some things. Like changing Vcore.
Vcore 1.35@5Ghz Cinebench R15 did run, but Prime95 crashed the PC.
Vcore upto 1.4@5Ghz Cinebench R15 no Problem, but Prime95 did crash the PC (with 1.385V at 30min the latest).
Vcore 1.4@5Ghz seems Stable so far.
Vcore at Auto is around 1.412V.

Tested with CinebenchR15:
@4,5Ghz 993 Points | Temp before delid: 62°C / After delid 51°C
@5Ghz 1103 Points | Temp before delid: 90°C / After delid 61°C

Prime95 Temps (without more then 30min running, Temp increases a bit when running longer (AIO cooling))
@4,5Ghz Before delid: 65-70°C After delid: 52-56°C
@5Ghz Before delid: 92-95°C (aborted after less then 5min due to high Temp) After Delid: 62-65°C

Deactivated AVX2 for Prime95...leaving it activated @5Ghz crashes 3 threads (they stay idle), while the other 5 are runing @100%.

Fact is that my 5Ghz Temps are now my predelid 4.5Ghz Temps XD
Also the more Heat my CPU produces/the quicker my CPU is, the more it benefits from the LiquidMetal see the Temp drop at top.

EDIT:

I tested my 1.35V@5Ghz with playing Battlefield 1 on Ultra 1080p 60fps, while looking Vids on my second Monitor. CPU was at 56/7°C. And it didnt crash, while it does crash with Prime 95 (BSOD) XD.

EDIT2:

Tested 1.25V@Stock 4.5Ghz (CPU is sucking 1.25V but setting is at 1.2V) BF1 at Ultra WITH 4k downsample to 1080p at 60fps.
Temp at 50-52°C sucking about 55W...kind of awesome...


Here are the Pictures from Beginning to End: (sry for the bad angle used my iPod and a Desklamp for Light XD)

First what i used:
No Tape or anything to cover was used.
Used a lot of Q-tips for cleaning with Isopropyl-Alcohol 99.9% (not on Picture) better save then sry.



Here is what the CPU looks like with the centering aid on it....it fits the IHS inside.



Opened CPU...it seems like there were air bubbles in the TIM, could be from the delidding...



Cleaned CPU/IHS



CPU AND IHS with Liquid Metal and Silicon
(Silicon was hard to apply since the tube opening was much bigger -.-)
Liquid Metal was easy to apply, only a 2mm diameter drop for each of CPU and IHS.
My Tip first pull the syringe a bit back and then squeeze gently.



Waiting to dry inside the Delid-Die-Mate 2


Edited by theGucky - 4/29/17 at 4:07pm
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