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editing former posts to keep this thread safe. who was supposed to read, they read already wink.gif
please, whoever quoted me, remove that quote.

Done biggrin.gif
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Not illegal, as long as he doesn't claim they have full warranty and are new :b

Yeah, it'd still be frowned upon. Such as selling a "Working" 8800GT that has been baked, the product is technically "tampered with". I have no reason against it, just mentioning that you might want to be careful in the way that you're wording it. tongue.gif
 
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Remember guy. batch number and place of make doesn't prove squat about chips at all. it just shows where when and who made it.

This is in relation to the silicone not just the makers. Think of it like snowflakes.

Every single on is different in the crystalline properties. you can't "make" them all perfect. or at least not yet with our silicone technologies. You can only hope that you get a good chip that has good silicone properties and takes the electricity just right. Thats how you get the vcores for your chips guys. It's not the fact that it just wont take it. it's the silicones resistance to it. so the more you pump in the more you "force" the chip basically. but those rare golden chips have the crystals lined up just right and are like hell yeah I'll take the vcore like a boss and love it the entire time and not use any. Thats why you don't go by batch number for reference look at VonDutches, and myself's. 2 different batches. 2 different contries. Darn close to the same crystalline properties.

It's never just that it wont do it. it's just that it doesn't like it is all. The silicone is the key not the PCB the batch the lanes no nothing. it's all in the silly little stone is all.

And that is the real Chip Lottery boys and girls.

Enjoy Ladies and Gents. thumb.gif
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yeah, I'm just disappointed with my luck, 2 recent chips and same crap ... had a good one though but lost it due to degradation (I believe it was started by my former faulty MB, my luck) ... perhaps I will stay with my chip for now, forget about extreme oc'ing and stick to 4.8Ghz with nice temps daily and be done with it ... for now.
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-oz-rtv-silicone-black-90024.html
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I don't believe in Prime. I prefer running a quick Cinebench 11.6 x64 test on CPU which so far proves all other tests I know valid, that's because Cinebench requires much more vcore than IBT does for stability. so when IBT proves something stable, Cinebench might prove unstable in 30 seconds and vice versa when it's stable under Cinebench then it most likely will be stable under IBT and Prime ... YMMV ... just saying what I recently use with great luck.
good chip though! smile.gif might go with 3570k eventually if I get bored with 3770K (and my luck with them) ...
wow, that's is the newest one I've seen, 33th week of 2012, how is it and where did you get it from?
i ran this before i tested prime
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Running my i5-3570k at 4.2GHz at stock offset voltages >< 4.3 causes some errors.

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2588192

Currently, idle 40-36-37-40, load gets around 70-77 iirc.

I'm going to pop the top tomorrow after I grab some more thermal paste. Coollabs - IHS - AS5 probably for now on a stock cooler >< lol just gonna check some numbers first before switching coolers.

EDIT: prior while testing 4.2GHz, something caused an error and cpuz read this before everything froze and locked up

very annoying to have it seem normal and then go on a fritz lol.
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Quick Update:

I tried 4.6ghz first, it actually runs about the same as 4.2 on RealTemp. My 4.2 vcore is set at 1.125. Ran 4.6ghz at 1.25.

Decided to go 5.0ghz and tried it at about 1.45 to start and it seems to have been a bit more stable at 1.48. Temps were about 72-80-80-74 running IBT.

This is all on a CM 212, so it's a pretty mild cooling setup. Ambient temps are about 65F right now. I'll provide screenshots and run some longer tests this weekend.

Big thanks to Valgaur, Von Dutch and all the other De-Lidders who's awesome results made de-lidding just too tempting to resist!
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For those asking.

I think that when I scratched the PCB I scratched the memory controller part of it. I couldn't boot with more then 1 stick of ram and dual channel was non-existant.

Get some epic numbers out of that chip thought... oh well one expensive key ring I guess biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Valgaur View Post

Remember guy. batch number and place of make doesn't prove squat about chips at all. it just shows where when and who made it.
This is in relation to the silicone not just the makers. Think of it like snowflakes.
Every single on is different in the crystalline properties. you can't "make" them all perfect. or at least not yet with our silicone technologies. You can only hope that you get a good chip that has good silicone properties and takes the electricity just right. Thats how you get the vcores for your chips guys. It's not the fact that it just wont take it. it's the silicones resistance to it. so the more you pump in the more you "force" the chip basically. but those rare golden chips have the crystals lined up just right and are like hell yeah I'll take the vcore like a boss and love it the entire time and not use any. Thats why you don't go by batch number for reference look at VonDutches, and myself's. 2 different batches. 2 different contries. Darn close to the same crystalline properties.
It's never just that it wont do it. it's just that it doesn't like it is all. The silicone is the key not the PCB the batch the lanes no nothing. it's all in the silly little stone is all.
And that is the real Chip Lottery boys and girls.
Enjoy Ladies and Gents. thumb.gif

I understand now.. But there is the possiblity of a "Bad" batch that hasn't been prepared as well or something? I'm sure there'd be other factors too?

I love the explanation though! Hilarious tongue.gif
 
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I understand now.. But there is the possiblity of a "Bad" batch that hasn't been prepared as well or something? I'm sure there'd be other factors too?
I love the explanation though! Hilarious tongue.gif

Bad batch possibly based on the silicone deposit and the refinery they use.
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Bad batch possibly based on the silicone deposit and the refinery they use.

Ah yes, I thought there'd be something to factor in a bad overall batch. +Rep for the good explanation too.
I just noticed you're the OP, great source of information and good idea for a "Club". It makes the decision easier and makes it easier to discuss results rather then in the general Ivy Bridge thread. biggrin.gif
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For those asking.
I think that when I scratched the PCB I scratched the memory controller part of it. I couldn't boot with more then 1 stick of ram and dual channel was non-existant.
Get some epic numbers out of that chip thought... oh well one expensive key ring I guess biggrin.gif

Sell it on eBay as just that? Say that it only works with one stick in a single channel.. biggrin.gif
Someone will buy it for either a keyring or for their parents PC with a single 4GB stick of RAM. That sort of thing would actually be great for my sister with just a 4GB RAM stick. smile.gif
 
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For those asking.
I think that when I scratched the PCB I scratched the memory controller part of it. I couldn't boot with more then 1 stick of ram and dual channel was non-existant.
Get some epic numbers out of that chip thought... oh well one expensive key ring I guess biggrin.gif

i Buy those Key rings wink.gif
    
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