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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

i only have 1800 and then 2000 in my bios, if i set by hand, it jumps to either one,
i just did 9-10-9-24, 1.65V 1800mhz..same ..no go, back to what i had before...lol
edit,
just saw you saying 1T, i have 2T set, makes big difference?

Gigabyte is having some issues with ram overclocking in general with their z77 lineup, from what I've seen/experienced.
So yeah, discard the xmp thing and set timings manually...You're gonna have to fiddle with secondary/tertiary timings to go higher it seems.
Sin has a couple of screenshots of his ram tweakit and bios screens showing all the timings manually set. Use that as a model and go for 2000mhz with his settings and 1.65v dram, and 1.1v vtt / 1.095v imc to see if it gets any better.
post #3412 of 34072
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Originally Posted by feniks View Post

forget about XMP.
go to BIOS (clear CMOS if you can't now), then set memory frequency/speed manually, set timings in DDR configuration to whatever your manufacturer specified and lastly set the VDIMM (DDR voltage) to whatever it's supposed to be. reboot and see.
also in cinebench, why not run the CPU test? that's what I usually run, it's a rendering test on CPU cores, faster memory gives it a little boost, but don't expect miracles hehe.

lol, only wanted to see if my vid card score would be higher,
i always use cinebench for first look if a oc is good or not,
if it hangs, closes, or anything, you dont have to look further with other proggies..lol
but saw you mention it elsewhere a few times, so nvm biggrin.gif

yea., will look into it again tommz, getting late over here,
thanks for the help again thumb.gif

i know about the little boost, but i see that also as a way of tweaking my comp,
thats why my next step is getting much higher rated ram, and 16gb
make full use of ivy's good imc..
then my new vidcard, think its gonna be the 7950, 3gb card..
think then my build is about ready ..lol
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Gigabyte is having some issues with ram overclocking in general with their z77 lineup, from what I've seen/experienced.
So yeah, discard the xmp thing and set timings manually...You're gonna have to fiddle with secondary/tertiary timings to go higher it seems.
Sin has a couple of screenshots of his ram tweakit and bios screens showing all the timings manually set. Use that as a model and go for 2000mhz with his settings and 1.65v dram, and 1.1v vtt / 1.095v imc to see if it gets any better.

copied it to text doc, will try more tomorrow thumb.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 11/20/12 at 12:40pm
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Awesome man! so glad someone got it...it was too good to be true tongue.gif
You're gonna have some fun and a nice boost with your superpi 32m scores wink.gif

I can't wait for these bad boys!
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Originally Posted by Conquistador SW View Post

OCN name: Conquistador SW
CPU: 3770K
On-die TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
IHS TIM: MX4
Mhz gained: +100MHz (for now)
OC after delid: I'm at 4.7GHz http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2533967 (higher overclock coming when I have time)
Temp drops: On average dropped ~25C with the hottest core dropping 30C
Pictures: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
DSC02722.jpgDSC02730.jpgdelidded3770k3.png
Might I suggest we add that you have to state which TIM you used under the IHS?

What cpu cooler were you using at the time?
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Not gonna submit an official entry for this one yet tongue.gif but I think this was a success, I nicked the corner though (not even where the glue was, I nicked it kuz my oh-so-unsteady hands hit the corner before the IHS =_= so lame frown.gif.

Durr... ignore the mess...

Before I start

Finally off after 40 minutes, easier than the first time but still was trying to be careful, only 2 corners wanted to come off easily the other two I fought to get out frown.gif

Some Coollaboratory Liquid Pro on it, first attempt (not enough was on it, and it wasn't creating a good contact so I had to take it off reapply and scrub the IHS - I probably need to sand it down but I don't ahve a good means to do it easily... well I have a rotary tool with a sanding bit but I'll pass on using that).


After I put it back in, my entire computer went haywire >< guhh... my fault for forgetting to set to default, but more or less it didn't seem to like my RAM at
1.5v - 2133MHz - 10-10-10-27-2T for my Samsung ram (2x4gb)

After trying to get it back to normal (kept booting at 100x48 @ 1.48v no matter what I set it to...), I get the same 4.2GHz (42x100) at similar temps (paste isn't set yet obviously which is why I'm not submitting till it's set in a bit more.

P.S. I think the first time I applyed the tim I didn't set do it right kuz it kept crashing etc. I took it off, wiped it clean, used the gritty steel wool like thingy, and more or less tryed to scrap the IHS down as much as I could and it seemed to have worked ok.

Currently, I'm just testing some new settings but it seems to like my ram at 2133MHz, 10-11-10-1T at 1.375v, cpu it's stable at 4.2GHz and 3.8GHz fine but still needs testing and nothing set in stone yet just posting for now though.

N.B.. the pictures are grainy because I wasn't paying attention and my ISO was set to 6400 +_+ oops, i obviously don't pay attention to photographs...
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

ivan, whats with the xmp profile setting the timings higher then
what the manufacturer says, mine is rated 9-9-9-24,
profile sets it to, 9-8-8-21,
auto sets it to, 10-10-10-27 or 28 i think..

just did a rerun with my new ssd, and my vid card in cinebench,

a massive 1 fps more ..lol, how is my old 6850 doing compared to your guys smile.gif 103.88 fps i have..
what do you guys think if my first readings with my new ssd,

do i have to tweak something? i have the latest firmware installed thumb.gif
so far i disabled windows search, i know where to find things ..lol.
disabled indexing C:, disabled windows defragmentation..

This, will help a lot. You'll save space and gain performance also. As for the RAM use the BIOS F17a, it's the most stable I've found for my rev 1.0 board and it lets my RAM run at 2000 stable. You might want to add a bit of voltage on the IMC if you're running more then 2 sticks. (I run at 0.975)

Oh and yes, my board likes to try and run the sticks at 11-11-11-30 with 2T and at 1.5v even though it specifically says 1.375.. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Gigabyte is having some issues with ram overclocking in general with their z77 lineup, from what I've seen/experienced.
So yeah, discard the xmp thing and set timings manually...You're gonna have to fiddle with secondary/tertiary timings to go higher it seems.
Sin has a couple of screenshots of his ram tweakit and bios screens showing all the timings manually set. Use that as a model and go for 2000mhz with his settings and 1.65v dram, and 1.1v vtt / 1.095v imc to see if it gets any better.

Yeah, Gigabyte are having issues. I recently updated to the beta BIOS F17a and my sticks will now boot at 2000 10-10-10-28 2T at 1.5v. That's for 16GB of the Samsung RAM which I assume the OP has?
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Not gonna submit an official entry for this one yet tongue.gif but I think this was a success, I nicked the corner though (not even where the glue was, I nicked it kuz my oh-so-unsteady hands hit the corner before the IHS =_= so lame frown.gif.
Durr... ignore the mess...

Before I start

Finally off after 40 minutes, easier than the first time but still was trying to be careful, only 2 corners wanted to come off easily the other two I fought to get out frown.gif

Some Coollaboratory Liquid Pro on it, first attempt (not enough was on it, and it wasn't creating a good contact so I had to take it off reapply and scrub the IHS - I probably need to sand it down but I don't ahve a good means to do it easily... well I have a rotary tool with a sanding bit but I'll pass on using that).

After I put it back in, my entire computer went haywire >< guhh... my fault for forgetting to set to default, but more or less it didn't seem to like my RAM at
1.5v - 2133MHz - 10-10-10-27-2T for my Samsung ram (2x4gb)
After trying to get it back to normal (kept booting at 100x48 @ 1.48v no matter what I set it to...), I get the same 4.2GHz (42x100) at similar temps (paste isn't set yet obviously which is why I'm not submitting till it's set in a bit more.
P.S. I think the first time I applyed the tim I didn't set do it right kuz it kept crashing etc. I took it off, wiped it clean, used the gritty steel wool like thingy, and more or less tryed to scrap the IHS down as much as I could and it seemed to have worked ok.
Currently, I'm just testing some new settings but it seems to like my ram at 2133MHz, 10-11-10-1T at 1.375v, cpu it's stable at 4.2GHz and 3.8GHz fine but still needs testing and nothing set in stone yet just posting for now though.
N.B.. the pictures are grainy because I wasn't paying attention and my ISO was set to 6400 +_+ oops, i obviously don't pay attention to photographs...

Nice.. So you mean to say that the controller seems to have degraded? That nick might have been near/on the controller and degraded it slightly if that's even possible.
 
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lapping the cpu delidded give any advantage on temps?
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Nice.. So you mean to say that the controller seems to have degraded? That nick might have been near/on the controller and degraded it slightly if that's even possible.
He could have cut a crucial circuit, obviously there's more then 1, and now it has less voltage running through to the particular component.
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Originally Posted by gizmo83 View Post

lapping the cpu delidded give any advantage on temps?

Yes makes the IHS flat to make more contact with the HS giving more heat transfer.

Id test your chip first make sure it works.. because once u lap there is no chance for an RMA.
    
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What is an respectable temp drop when delidding?
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