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IHS lapping ( 400 grit --> 800 grit --> 1000 grit). Read this composite pic from left-to-right and from top-to-bottom:

As evident in the photos, the IHS on this 3770K was quite concave, that is,
higher in the middle than elsewhere. "Flatness" was achieved in this case
when no more silver color remained on the IHS.

one uses wet/dry sandpaper and a flat surface (glass usually) to slowly and
iteratively grind an uneven surface. The goal of lapping is not be to make
a mirror surface, rather, it is to make flat surface.
waking up, g'morning smile.gif , and done some "info looting" while drinking my coffee wink.gif
saw you guys talk about sanding ihs etc ..so ..i like pictures, easier then 1000 (grit) words right ..lol
i must say, most peeps say it didnt help much, i thought the same till now,
1-3C max difference, others saw no difference at all, so im surprised about the
extra 11C tempdrop..
.....................................................................................................
First, here is the sequence of pics taken during the various stages of lapping.
To determine if the IHS was initially convex (crowned in the middle) or concave (like a bowl),
I used a sharpie permanent marker to make an X across the surface of the IHS:

Then I did just a few strokes on 220 grit before inspecting it,
knowing that the portions of the original "X" would only be removed from the high spots on the IHS:

very clear indication that the IHS is/was concave (like a bowl, the center was low and not touched by the sand paper yet,
the edges were high and have already been sanded down a bit, enough to begin to remove the permanent pen markings)
A bit more sanding with 220 grit yielded the following "copper ring" expected for a concave IHS:

We want all the nickel removed, nickel has a lower thermal transfer rate than copper, so I finished sanding off all the nickel with 220 grit:

check out how it looks after going all the way up to 3000 grit, love it biggrin.gif

if anyone is going to do this lapping thing,
note before and after results if you can,
might be usefull for others, we have this saying,
"one day of Sun, doesnt make a summer"..
so, results that one may have, wont mean others will have the same,
its like with the usage of different tim's on die,
took a while and results from different peeps, to be sure liquid pro/ultra are the best to use on die right smile.gif
o, about the "bowl" effect on that pic with the green markings,
dont forget if you put down the bracket on it, it will get less by the pressure...i thought..
well, to make sure noone will sue me, lol,
these are the original links,
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2260582
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2261219

How long did this take to do? redface.gif

EDIT: Ordering some liquid pro + liquid ultra today. Got one week left of school. (I go to two campus' and one has actually finished, I think i aced my exams without studying much! biggrin.gif)

Should I get one tube of each? Ultra for under the IHS, and Pro for contact with the cooler/top of CPU?
After I de-lid I may lap it too, I'll be using some mere MX-2 to see what the temperature drop is like until my coolabs stuff gets here (It'll probably be a while). I've decided I may lap the IHS so I won't be sealing it just yet, if that's the case I need to make the call before I use the coolabs stuff. Has anyone de-lidded then lapped? I'm assuming the best way would be to take the IHS off and just do that and leave the CPU sepoarately (and away from where I am lapping it)

EDIT2: Just figured that it's Euros and not Pounds.. doh.gif That saves me $5 at least.
Edited by Matt-Matt - 11/23/12 at 6:36pm
 
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Looks like a 3 hour job...
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Looks like a 3 hour job...

Anything for performance eh? thumb.gif
 
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OFC!

Guys...I want an UMPC, someone find me one that runs Windows XP and Half Life 2. (Samsung Q1 Ultra is the one I want :/ )
I wanna play mmo's on the go, or while I run superpi 32m lol rolleyes.gif
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I just stabbed my thumb with the cl pro needle and some of it basically went in, I aint gonna die right...
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I just stabbed my thumb with the cl pro needle and some of it basically went in, I aint gonna die right...

It's not really good for you... no, it shouldn't kill you. But I'd try and squeeze your thumb to see if you can get any out. I'm not certain that it won't *kill you* but I reckon you may just get sick from it.

EDIT: I Google'd around, I take what I said back. It's fine, they actually use gallium to test for cancer etc so it must be safe. linky.
Edited by Matt-Matt - 11/23/12 at 7:17pm
 
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lol tongue.gif
It's Gallium, not mercury, doubt you'd die cause of it.
Take a glass, put some alcohol inside it, light a match and light the alcohol on fire. Just afterwards put the glass over your thumb, creating a vacuum effect.
Should remove everything! (works for most disgusting stuff on your skin too lol)
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

lol tongue.gif
It's Gallium, not mercury, doubt you'd die cause of it.
Take a glass, put some alcohol inside it, light a match and light the alcohol on fire. Just afterwards put the glass over your thumb, creating a vacuum effect.
Should remove everything! (works for most disgusting stuff on your skin too lol)

lol
post #3619 of 33574
It should work...you could use one of those tweezers dermathologists use to remove blackheads.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

lol tongue.gif
It's Gallium, not mercury, doubt you'd die cause of it.
Take a glass, put some alcohol inside it, light a match and light the alcohol on fire. Just afterwards put the glass over your thumb, creating a vacuum effect.
Should remove everything! (works for most disgusting stuff on your skin too lol)

That is crazy.. So I could put a dash of vodka in a glass, light it then put it on my nose to remove blackheads/pimples/puss or whatever else is in there?
 
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