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never seen a WS mobo. that might be the issue set it to manual and try 1.48 vcore and try 49 multi.

I was already stable at 1.4 for 4.9, but after a 15 restarts I wasnt, also I didn't have the enabled for the llc thing, and resetting the cmos helped. I think I can get it again.
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post #3912 of 33641
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Sorry I like to read the new posts and forget to multi it lol. what ya need man?

Nothing in particular, just bragging with my new and improved Intel Burn Test results after I lapped and delidded biggrin.gif
Now, though, it would be really nice if you could add me to the OP listing, since I have my final results in ^^

OCN name: Leyaena
CPU: i5-3570k
on die-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
ihs-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
Mhz gained: 0 - so far!
OC after delid: 4.5GHz
Temp drops: 30°C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2596827
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Where is the one u got from the Intel Rep.. That just says VID not Vcore XD

well, thats the thing hokies,
theres no real max vcore to find in any of those sheets,
anyone that refers to vcore in the sheet, is talking about the max SVID intel recomments..

i asked your friend sin about it in his thread, he didnt respond yet,
hes using it in this graph,

i quote,
On Air/Water: Intel Rec. Max is Intel’s absolute maximum rating for the Ivy Bridge lineup, many of the numbers provided are identical to those of Sandy Bridge, however while vcore should be lower because of a better processing technology (22nm vs 32nm) it is max 1.52v here because of the SVID max.
end quote,


then daclownie gave me this answer,

I know for prior generations, the maximum allowable VID from the factory was considered
the maximum voltage for the processor. Not that that max VID was ever really spotted in the wild
for consumer usage. LGA775 was max of 1.45V VID, and that was widely considered the maximum you
should operate in a 24/7 environment, and that is obviously temperature permitting.


confusing for me, but i go with the best answers i can find,
i think its safe to say intel recommended vcore max is 1.52V
Edited by VonDutch - 11/27/12 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by Leyaena View Post

Nothing in particular, just bragging with my new and improved Intel Burn Test results after I lapped and delidded biggrin.gif
Now, though, it would be really nice if you could add me to the OP listing, since I have my final results in ^^
OCN name: Leyaena
CPU: i5-3570k
on die-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
ihs-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
Mhz gained: 0 - so far!
OC after delid: 4.5GHz
Temp drops: 30°C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2596827

I am not on there yet either and its been a month or two smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Leyaena View Post

Nothing in particular, just bragging with my new and improved Intel Burn Test results after I lapped and delidded biggrin.gif
Now, though, it would be really nice if you could add me to the OP listing, since I have my final results in ^^
OCN name: Leyaena
CPU: i5-3570k
on die-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
ihs-TIM: Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
Mhz gained: 0 - so far!
OC after delid: 4.5GHz
Temp drops: 30°C
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2596827

Accepted! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by chronicfx View Post

I am not on there yet either and its been a month or two smile.gif

Where is it lol. I'll add ya.
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I am not on there yet either and its been a month or two smile.gif

then you where here before the rest if us,
thread isnt even 2 months old yet ...haha biggrin.gif

o, 2 months almost, and 55,433 views ...nice thumb.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 11/27/12 at 11:51am
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I had that set to auto I think, would it be disabled if set to auto? I set the pll thing to 1.8v, and the current to 100% from 140%, but it just defaults back to it half the time.
yeah, auto could have been actually disabled, never know until you manually toggle it to enabled smile.gif
if it defaults back it could mean that overcock is unstable and BIOS reverts settings in order to boot, try higher vcore to see if it helps.
also make sure you are running Ultra High LLC.
140% current capability is what I run and it's enough for anything possible on air/water.
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Where is the 1.52 Intel spec thing at? "not Sin0822s chart"
here you go:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
page 84

taht is for 3rd gen desktop i5/i7 series.
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The first once is vcc aka vcore. And that chart doesn't even make sense. Recommended max 1.52 but max on h20 1.55... what will happen if its not under the recommended max. Doesn't mention degration anywhere.

i asked about that too, when i spoke to the intel employee about the max vcore,
about ocing, using higher vcores etc, and degradation over time, he said,
"if the vcore is within the 1.52V, there should be no degradation at all over time"..
i was like what! ..lol, but i still recommend a max of 1.45V vcore is asked whats safe smile.gif
hokies is our experiment when it comes to go over the recommended vcore,
hes running 1.50V vcore 24/7 ..lol

o, and about the sheet, he told me to ask a intel engineer to explain the why etc,
even gave me a link, but i figured i knew enough, im not that technical,
reading that sheet gave me a headeache..lol
Edited by VonDutch - 11/27/12 at 12:04pm
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i asked about that too, when i spoke to the intel employee about the max vcore,
about ocing, using higher vcores etc, and degradation over time, he said,
"if the vcore is within the 1.52V, there should be no degradation at all over time"..
i was like what! ..lol, but i still recommend a max of 1.45V vcore is asked whats safe smile.gif
hokies is our experiment when it comes to go over the recommended vcore,
hes running 1.50V vcore 24/7 ..lol
o, and about the sheet, he told me to ask a intel engineer to explain the why etc,
even gave me a link, but i figured i knew enough, im not that technical,
reading that sheet gave me a headeache..lol

you have to keep in mind that Intel specs related ONLY to stock (turbo) speeds and vcore as well hehe. of course, you won't see a stock chip running 3.9GHz with 1.50v (hopefully!), but we use to read it that way as Intel rep cited, no degradation at all until you stay below absolute vcore (includes spikes, be it under load or idle, fixed or offset, extreme LLC or intel spec LLC) of 1.52V
the question if high speed alone could cause degradation over time is another matter, and heat of course (but we solved that one at least hehe)... so that being said, unless the MB power delivery is faulty there should be no trouble in a long run when staying below vcore of 1.52V

would higher vcore degrade it? over time yes, faster than "within spec" vcore for sure, but no one can answer how fast that would be, could be years, could be months or weeks, perhaps with some super weak CPU batches it could happen instantly. it's a lottery and we take the risks smile.gif
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