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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

I've looked at the Coollaboratory site and the Liquid Pro and the Ultra both are very close, in heat conductivity, the Pro being 1% better. No where near the double...It's in the spec sheets.
But, as Vondutch said, can't go wrong with a better tim on the die, just be careful with the application and follow Swag's guide.

Interesting, could you be so kind to link where you found that. I read through all the data sheets they link on their site and cannot find a thermal conductivity rating.
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Interesting, could you be so kind to link where you found that. I read through all the data sheets they link on their site and cannot find a thermal conductivity rating.

Can't find the link now, it was a german page. The reviews show a 1% for the Liquid Pro, so there's nothing to worry really...Also, IC Diamond claims a thermal conductivity of 2500w/mk, comparing it to silver that has a 400 or something w/mk rating. So I guess it's just marketing hype, kinda like watts pmpo.
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Can't find the link now, it was a german page. The reviews show a 1% for the Liquid Pro, so there's nothing to worry really...Also, IC Diamond claims a thermal conductivity of 2500w/mk, comparing it to silver that has a 400 or something w/mk rating. So I guess it's just marketing hype, kinda like watts pmpo.

I'm getting sick of companies doing that. They need to be a real man suck it up if there's isn't the best and just present the real data. Technically they aren't providing full information on their product and lying tot he customers which should never be a priority of a company.......grrrrrrr mad.gif
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Can't find the link now, it was a german page. The reviews show a 1% for the Liquid Pro, so there's nothing to worry really...Also, IC Diamond claims a thermal conductivity of 2500w/mk, comparing it to silver that has a 400 or something w/mk rating. So I guess it's just marketing hype, kinda like watts pmpo.

it says,
"Purified synthetic diamond has a thermal conductivity of 2,000-2,500 W/mK compared to 406-429 W/mK for pure silver"

thats the thermal conductivity of diamonds..


specifications say this,

Specificaties:
Thermal Condunctane: 4,5 w/m-k
Thermal Resistance: 0,25oC-cm2/W@ 100 µ BLT
Average Particle Size: <40 µ
Compliancy: RoHS Compliant

http://www.innovationcooling.com/thermal.htm

a 3.5C improvement compared to other compounds




in my case,

i used AS5 first, saw a drop of 5-10C max, reseated my cooler twice to make sure..
thermal conductivity of Arctic Silver 5 is 8.7 W/(m·K)

then i used liquid pro, and saw a drop of 25-30C..


till now, the biggest temp drops i saw, where from people using liquid pro on the Die,
on the ihs ic diamond is good enough..but i still say, why not go for the best w/mk out there biggrin.gif
doesnt have to be liquid metal, if cleaning is a problem, i havent done that yet, so cant say if its easy or not ..
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Wow you guys are crazy..lol.A few years back i killed my AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ delidding it but then i delidded my Opteron 165 with no problems .I dont think my nerves could take doing this to my 3770K..lol But i do envy you guys that have the gut's to do it..
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Can't find the link now, it was a german page. The reviews show a 1% for the Liquid Pro, so there's nothing to worry really...Also, IC Diamond claims a thermal conductivity of 2500w/mk, comparing it to silver that has a 400 or something w/mk rating. So I guess it's just marketing hype, kinda like watts pmpo.

You are forgetting that that 1% is the difference when using on top of the IHS, not under. This makes a big difference as the area under the IHS is much smaller. For on top of the IHS you could use toothpaste and it will still be close performance wise. If you would have taken the time to read some of these threads you would understand that the difference between Liquid Pro and other pastes is actually very large.

And I think 2500w/mk is the thermal conductivity of actual diamond, not the paste. The paste is around 5 W/mK (Look at Vondutch's post)
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I would invest in Coollaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra for the DIE-IHS and anything really for the IHS. I mean, what makes the MOST significant drop in temps would be the Liquid Pro/Ultra. A 1 - 3C drop really all depends on the seat you get. That's why normally, I just say +/-3C for all TIMs because I have had cases where I put on some really dry old paste and it got better temps than my new pastes. Only because I realized that I had a really bad seat with the others.
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it says,
"Purified synthetic diamond has a thermal conductivity of 2,000-2,500 W/mK compared to 406-429 W/mK for pure silver"
thats the thermal conductivity of diamonds..
specifications say this,
Specificaties:
Thermal Condunctane: 4,5 w/m-k
Thermal Resistance: 0,25oC-cm2/W@ 100 µ BLT
Average Particle Size: <40 µ
Compliancy: RoHS Compliant
http://www.innovationcooling.com/thermal.htm
a 3.5C improvement compared to other compounds

in my case,
i used AS5 first, saw a drop of 5-10C max, reseated my cooler twice to make sure..
thermal conductivity of Arctic Silver 5 is 8.7 W/(m·K)
then i used liquid pro, and saw a drop of 25-30C..
till now, the biggest temp drops i saw, where from people using liquid pro on the Die,
on the ihs ic diamond is good enough..but i still say, why not go for the best w/mk out there biggrin.gif
doesnt have to be liquid metal, if cleaning is a problem, i havent done that yet, so cant say if its easy or not ..

I Still refuse to use the diamond stuff on my die I will never torture my die by doing that with that sandpaper. thumb.gif sorry those are my feelings I can't put frank through that
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Wow you guys are crazy..lol.A few years back i killed my AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ but then i delidded my Opteron 165 with no problems .I dont think my nerves could take doing this to my 3770K..lol But i do envy you guys that have the gut's to do it.
Yeah we are a bit crazy lol. But I want the best performance for my folding rig....aka my only rig lol. I will be getting either pro or ultra depending on just how tough pro is to clean (think I'm gonna get ultra instead) and then use my proven indigo xtreme yet again on the IHS....I will make that stuff work again that ETI was amazing.
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You are forgetting that that 1% is the difference when using on top of the IHS, not under. This makes a big difference as the area under the IHS is much smaller. For on top of the IHS you could use toothpaste and it will still be close performance wise. If you would have taken the time to read some of these threads you would understand that the difference between Liquid Pro and other pastes is actually very large.
And I think 2500w/mk is the thermal conductivity of actual diamond, not the paste. The paste is around 5 W/mK (Look at Vondutch's post)

That remark somewhat offended me...I've read TONS of stuff about this, and I KNOW that Liquid Pro/Ultra is the best for the die, heck I've ordered it 5 days ago.
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Does the intel overclockers warranty cover delidding?

I very much doubt so. :/
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