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So is nvidia's voltage, you can go up to a max, which can give you a major oc, anything beyond is basically unsafe. You can update the bios also to give you higher than recommended.

only the lightnings and hardwired asus dctop

And they suffer from 256 bus and a wimpy 2 gb vram..

when over clocked a 7970 can pull as far away from a 680 a 20%
    
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I just hope AMD can keep it up with gpus, makes nvidia work harder. I've always been an nvidia fanboy since I got started, nvidia has been in the performance lead for a while. This was the first time in a few years AMD came out ahead & nvidia couldn't quite answer it. AMD gpus got better, dunno WTH happened with thier cpus...
I don't look at stock clocks on either card, or Ghz edition/ normal 7970 (ghz is the pretty much the same as any 7970, with a new bios), just the numbers they put up overclocked.

Ya, intel is gonna be a monopoly for the consumer market in the next year or two if amd continues what they are doing now. ATI has always been relatively close. And I dont think its really that nvidia couldnt answer, i'm sure theyve had gk110 in the making for quite a while now, more like a market strategy.
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only the lightnings and hardwired asus dctop
And they suffer from 256 bus and a wimpy 2 gb vram..
when over clocked a 7970 can pull as far away from a 680 a 20%

20% seems highly exaggerated. And plus you can oc 680s, im not sure how much but I can oc my 690 by 50%. I havent tried yet, working on a new mobo first. I already flashed my bios and can raise voltage much higher than what you could with precision x alone. 30c at max load atm with 200+core 700+mem and 135% power.
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NVIDIA GTX 600 cards are weak. Not designed to over clock. CApped bandwidth in memory interface and capped power from weak VRM. You get a much more enthusiast built card from the HD 79XX series cards. Way more bang per buck with the free games most AMD cards come with as well.

NVIDIA is all about the money this time around with 28nm cards IMO.

HD7950 IMO is the best value of all cards. For under $300 its an extremely powerful card. My last card was 40nm card was an NVIDIA card but AMD has clearly made a stand as offering the best video cards for the money with the 28nm cards.


My delidded 3770k is working great at 5GHZ right now for gaming. smile.gif

All this video card talk is getting off track. Lets here and see more delidding action! smile.gif
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20% seems highly exaggerated. And plus you can oc 680s, im not sure how much but I can oc my 690 by 50%. I havent tried yet, working on a new mobo first. I already flashed my bios and can raise voltage much higher than what you could with precision x alone. 30c at max load atm with 200+core 700+mem and 135% power.

Flashing the Bios on Kepler is a death wish... so many degraded cards all over the interweb.. Nvidia set those chips to the Maximum safe voltage from the Factory.



    
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Flashing the Bios on Kepler is a death wish... so many degraded cards all over the interweb.. Nvidia set those chips to the Maximum safe voltage from the Factory.



Graphs from ati.... I saw an anandtech review giving the new drivers 2-3fps boost.
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7970 pawns the gtx 680 and everyone knows it. my gtx 680 is unlocked voltage via bios tweak but still can't keep up with 7970's. sad really
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Please people let's stay on topic, GPU discussion in a Delidded Ivy Bridge Club...? Come-on!
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Please people let's stay on topic, GPU discussion in a Delidded Ivy Bridge Club...? Come-on!

yea, c'mon guys..
so, you guys think i should DELID my new 7950?? ..LOL
jk, of course i will, using liquid pro on the other gpu's i have,
took down temps by about 10C smile.gif
thanks for all the input tho, great thumb.gif

anyways, i got my 10 pentiums, if any of you have a idea about
a better way to delid, i can try some for you..

1. a hard but thin plastic card, after first cutting in the corners with normal boxcutter

2. using a sticker remover to dissolve the adhesive, already bought this one smile.gif

HG sticker and sticky label remover allows for the simple removal of stickers, sticker adhesive, rubber adhesive, adhesive tape, tar splashes, greasy patches, oil, heel marks and many other problems, from virtually all surfaces.
or nail polish remover, "Aceton" is another i want to try..but have to be carefull it doesnt harm the pcb too..lol

3. using a vise, put 2. long blades between long sides of cpu/ihs, and slowly,
let pressure from vise cut through the adhesive,

4. a piano wire? or one from a guitar..

already tried with this, my mum used to use it, called "ijzergaren"(iron yarn)

but wasnt strong enough, broke all the time, but worked, could cut into the corners np..

5..... idk yet ..lol
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Welp here goes lol.

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K, I was trying 1.225v, prob not enough V. But I think I tried on Auto too. I booted 4.3GHz on Auto and its giving me 1.32v, seems a little high. I'm running a short Intel Burn Test, I just want to see temps. I haven't delidded yet, I also got lazy and didnt feel like lapping my Antec Kuhler 620 either. Right now 4.3GHz auto voltage of 1.32v and 70C on the hottest core.

Don't need to lap your 620. heat sinks are darn near perfectly flat.
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I'm sure the blades would work, if you don't have good callus' on your fingers I still think the blades at the hardware store that come with one edge covered are just easier on the fingers.
The thin plastic idea is good, just have to find something stiff enough to finish the job without folding up. Cut into each corner with the blade & the sides do go easier.

I agree the one sided blades are the best truthfully. no user harm and perfect precision. what more could you have lol.
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I had to take it all the way up to 1.35v to boot on 4.5GHz but then BSOD as soon as I start IBT.
I dropped it down to 4.4GHz @ 1.3v and it's just fine. There might be a different setting I need to adjust. I'll look into it more tomorrow, or if you guys have any ideas leave them here and I'll check in the AM. I gotta pour a big ole' slab in the morning, its gonna be a long day.

Yeah we will help ya out. thumb.gif
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Do you have internal pll overvoltage enabled? If not do so...and run stock ram.

Try PLL at around 1.6-1.7 I run at 4.5 with PLL at 1.6vcore
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Originally Posted by Arm3nian View Post

So is nvidia's voltage, you can go up to a max, which can give you a major oc, anything beyond is basically unsafe. You can update the bios also to give you higher than recommended.

A lot of Nvidias cards are voltage locked. I called a couple of manufacturer's today and got this response to asking if I can vcore mod their cards. they just went. "It's already at it's limit, You can personally mod it and have a great chance of killing the card through the volt jumps. Also when you self rig it the card gets kinda cranky with the power draw and can actually short itself during a bench with Nvidia's new auto boost technology in them." I can only go to 1.175 vcore in my 680 superclocked+ and with that whats funny is when I was folding I ran it at stock and it auto clocked itself to 1230 core, but it jumped the vcore to 1.175. In game it does this as well.
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20% seems highly exaggerated. And plus you can oc 680s, im not sure how much but I can oc my 690 by 50%. I havent tried yet, working on a new mobo first. I already flashed my bios and can raise voltage much higher than what you could with precision x alone. 30c at max load atm with 200+core 700+mem and 135% power.

From benchs and such it's pretty darn close.
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7970 pawns the gtx 680 and everyone knows it. my gtx 680 is unlocked voltage via bios tweak but still can't keep up with 7970's. sad really

powns* just sayin tongue.gif like I said above about the vcore of the Nvidias
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

yea, c'mon guys..
so, you guys think i should DELID my new 7950?? ..LOL
jk, of course i will, using liquid pro on the other gpu's i have,
took down temps by about 10C smile.gif
thanks for all the input tho, great thumb.gif
anyways, i got my 10 pentiums, if any of you have a idea about
a better way to delid, i can try some for you..
1. a hard but thin plastic card, after first cutting in the corners with normal boxcutter
2. using a sticker remover to dissolve the adhesive, already bought this one smile.gif

HG sticker and sticky label remover allows for the simple removal of stickers, sticker adhesive, rubber adhesive, adhesive tape, tar splashes, greasy patches, oil, heel marks and many other problems, from virtually all surfaces.
or nail polish remover, "Aceton" is another i want to try..but have to be carefull it doesnt harm the pcb too..lol
3. using a vise, put 2. long blades between long sides of cpu/ihs, and slowly,
let pressure from vise cut through the adhesive,

4. a piano wire? or one from a guitar..

already tried with this, my mum used to use it, called "ijzergaren"(iron yarn)

but wasnt strong enough, broke all the time, but worked, could cut into the corners np..
5..... idk yet ..lol

scrap 4 and 5 Von, instead use Spider Wire. This is an extremely strong fishing line that will stretch and bench unlike those other materials, especially piano wire. Then with the iron yarn it's just a very deeply threaded yarn thats very sturdy to pulls but not abbrasion. SpiderWire is really tough stuff get some 100lb test line and that will never break. the pole of you will break before that line. Heck 20 lb test line I have to cut it, I'll even pull the boat trying to break it, it's also cut my hands up once trying to slow a fish down lol. rolleyes.gif

Heres a link.

http://www.spiderwire.com/prod.php?k=557386&sk=50685&p=PURSUC10G-125%20(1275089)

The 65lb test ones.



GPU talk time will be done for now. I will allow GPU talk in here, but not this kind of back and forth stuff. We are here as delidders for delidders. That's why there's a GPU part of OCN.
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