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How is Xcom? i wanted to Snag it but it did not have a good enough Sale on it black Friday.
Snagged AC3 for 20$
Sleeping dogs for 10$
I will not pay much for a game XD
biggrin.gif it's awesome! I took it for $28 from greenmangaming during BF deal. kinda short if you make focus on research, in 40ish hours of game time I am attempting to finish the final mission (assaulting aliens mothership hovering over Earth), but for sure I will play it again on harder difficulty some other time. totally worth it, lots of fun! nice graphics with good cinematics, good background music, tons of fun biggrin.gif
wondering if they make some DLC for it over time...

This game and Civ5 (plus expansion) are the highest priced games I bought wink.gif I usually get games on 75% sales only too LOL! still have a bunch of such that I haven't even touched (all Crysis games, AvP, still playing SC2, etc.)
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Feniks I think your stability problem is with your RAM over clocked bandwidth caused by extreme CPU over clock. It may be rated for 2400mhz on a much lower speed IB CPU. AT 5 GHZ that ram is pusihing its limits. Try 1.2v on VCCIO voltage and see if helps stabilize it.
If not see how it reacts at CL 9 with your cpu at 5GHZ. At 2133mhz you should be able to lower VCCIO voltage to around 1.9v and possibly lower DRAM voltage to at least 1.6v. This may also alow you to lower your vcore a hair or two.
I thought so too, but the problem happens also when running mem sticks at fully stable 2000MHz XMP - I use this or 2200Mhz daily, running 2400 only for benching (99.99% stable).

kinda lost, it could be MB acting up in offsets mode at multies above 48x ... or the chip itself this time .. LOL! it's honestly the second good chip I have (1st one got damaged by former board), all the rest (3) was garbage maxing out at 4.8GHz below 1.52V ... not sure. let me switch to other BIOS (latest), reset it and go from there - perhaps that's all it takes ...

I tried 1.20v on vccio before and it had no effect, funny also that problem happens only in offsets mode, the fixed vcore was OK last time I checked. ... I just hope it's not the MB acting up (VRMs) on physical level ... but I'd rather replace the CPU again first then go with board RMA through ASUS LOL!
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On my 5GHZ 3770k 2666mhz RAM benchmarking settings I use 1.7v on DRAM and 1.25v on VCCIO voltage. PLL is at 1.65v.

I only run these settings for bench marking because I have to push my vcore to 1.5v to get this to stabilize. With XMP settings of 2400mhz CL 9 on my ram I can lower DRAM to 1.6v, VCIOO voltage to 1.09v and lower vcore to 1.44v. Big difference in voltages just by over clocking the ram.
Edited by SonDa5 - 12/3/12 at 10:52pm
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On my 5GHZ 3770k 2666mhz RAM benchmarking settings I use 1.7v on DRAM and 1.25v on VCCIO voltage. PLL is at 1.65v.
I only run these settings for bench marking because I have to push my vcore to 1.5v to get this to stabilize. With XMP settings of 2400mhz CL 9 on my ram I can lower DRAM to 1.6v, VCIOO voltage to 1.9v and lower vcore to 1.44v. Big difference in voltages just by over clocking the ram.

I agree. seeing similar patterns here. overclocking just the RAM (especially on 4 sticks that I used to have, now running only 2x4GB) requires way more vcore for same stability of CPU. I was usually leaving vccio & vccsa on auto as those worked good on MVE, only adjusting them manually for 5.1GHz+ benchmarking ... but that was insane vcore anyways...

for 4.8 up to 4.9GHz on all 3770K chips I had (not all could do 4.9 with reasonable vcore however), the CPU PLL of 1.50V was perfectly stable.
5.0GHz (on those that could run it) was usually stable at 1.55V, not sure about this one yet, so I keep it on auto 1.80V for now, will optimize it down after clock is stable solid and not floating around like it was on former BIOS 704 (hopefully this was it).

good news for now, the latest 1408 BIOS correctly set the multi to 50x after CMOS reset (formerly was locked at some wierd low clocks while in Windows however properly showing in BIOS).
I will try 2666MHz @ 1.70V on RAM and CL11 timings after I make 5.0GHz stable on offsets, really want this clock for daily running if possible, it's such a nice number, isn't it? biggrin.gif

let me see if I can make it stable with 75% LLC and maybe adjustments on CPU voltage frequency (auto 300KHz vs manual max 500KHz) and Phase type setting (can never decide between Extreme vs Optimized - can't really see the difference either).
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oh man, you guys make this seem tempting! maybe when I have enough money for backup, I will delid and overclock more, but not even sure if it's worth the 300mhz+ gain........
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I just run fixed.. Ivy does not use much power t worry about it...
LoL us At 5ghz prolly uses less power then a stock Vishera chip.

I've never seen a Vishera fan boy boi lol. What is the purpose of defending something that bad anyway lmao.
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I've never seen a Vishera fan boy boi lol. What is the purpose of defending something that bad anyway lmao.

Visit the Amd section there pretty hard core.. some will tell u a 8350 is faster then a 3770k rolleyes.gif
    
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nuff said, and RAM is back on track at all regular settings.
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no dice. cinebench starts passing at 0.295 offset @ 5GHz which is already higher than fully stable fixed vcore, but no matter what I try it always throws some WHEA warnings, meaning it's not fully stable and I don't see why. ASUS BIOS having an issue still?

went up to offset 0.305 while somewhere around 0.275-0.280 it should be stable (based on actual under load vcore comparison), but it's not... wondering if there is still something quirky about offsets at high multis in this BIOS ... it certainly is better as it no longer BSODs when vcore is unstable ... but those offsets and 49x+ multis seem to have an issue still ... might do 4.8 & 4.9GHz first tomorrow and see where those land exactly (fixed vs offset vcore under load) ... yeah, LOL! haven't tried those yet haha ... so far only was running 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, 5.0, 5.1 and 5.2 biggrin.gif for now back to 4.7Ghz and good night smile.gif
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LMAO!!! This BIOS 1408 is bugged like hell!!! restored BIOS defaults 3 times and couldn't boot to Windows with known good 4.7Ghz config as it was either hanging on Windows logo or plain restarting ... then loaded BIOS defaults again and only switched my memory sticks to XMP because I wanted to run memtest, but before I found my usb stick Windows booted ... here is what CPU-Z shows ... mind that in BIOS the CPU was at stock intel spec settings:



CRAZY ASUS BIOS!!!
reverting back to 1309 tomorrow, if that doesn't solve BIOS issues I am down to 704 which has offsets issues at 50x multi for sure ... F.M.L...
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LMAO!!! This BIOS 1408 is bugged like hell!!! restored BIOS defaults 3 times and couldn't boot to Windows with known good 4.7Ghz config as it was either hanging on Windows logo or plain restarting ... then loaded BIOS defaults again and only switched my memory sticks to XMP because I wanted to run memtest, but before I found my usb stick Windows booted ... here is what CPU-Z shows ... mind that in BIOS the CPU was at stock intel spec settings:


Im using the brand new 1704 or 1709 ones. They are pretty good.
CRAZY ASUS BIOS!!!
reverting back to 1309 tomorrow, if that doesn't solve BIOS issues I am down to 704 which has offsets issues at 50x multi for sure ... F.M.L...
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