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Back on track...peace out guys xD

Guys, don't buy crucial ram for z77 cause it's better for amd/775/x58. Get samsung batch 1229 or newer and clock it to 2400 cl9-11-11-21-1t at 1.6v...also use maxxmem preview 1.99 not aida.
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Originally Posted by kgtuning View Post

Stable as in what? intel burn test stable? or prime? Not trying to sound like a jerk, I'm just curious.

Not sounding as a jerk at all mate - I understand that peoples definition on "Stable" varies alot.

It holds IBT (10 runs), Cinebench, a handful of games I tried and a QUICK 15 minute Prime95 run.

Have *NOT* taken it through a 24 hour P95 test as of yet, neither have I looked at it with a cold and evil stare while screaming
"This is sparta!" - All will be done in due time, no doubt I can force it to "crack" at some point with enough work thrown at it smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Where did u come from?
Guess u do not understand the Convo
They DE BUNKED THE 1.52v as not being it.
Nobody knows what it is.
The only way to PROVE What a good max Vcore is .. is for somebody to run a high Vcore bench it stress it.. and that is me...
I got 20hrs of stress testing 300hrs of gaming hundreds of hrs of benching and what 90 days at 1.55v with 0 issues.. Thats how u find a max Vcore you push it and test it.. "Not Guess at it"

I'm not arguing with your method. However, one sample does NOT make a trend. Just because you can run at 1.55 does not make it safe. Every chip is different and that will include the effect of voltage on degradation. I just don't like your approach that because YOU did it ONCE with ONE chip that it is a stead fast value. It's what you're comfortable with and what you've had success with.

If we had dozens of people testing at that voltage in the long term then I would accept it as a safe value. Until that point in time I think we need to be a LOT more cautious about the maximum voltages which we are telling everyone is safe. In terms of statistics you have NO proof. You may have got lucky or your chip might be average. But we do not know so we should be leaning on the side of caution and not saying "You can run 1.55v 24/7, I guarantee it". While I know that may not be what you are saying, it sure sounds like it.

If you want to test your voltage theory on more chips then please, go ahead, and report back. But until that point I think it is unreasonable to label 1.55v as safe without further evidence. I think that may be what VonDutch was concerned about, that you were touting a set voltage as max with too little data to be considered proof.
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I'm not arguing with your method. However, one sample does NOT make a trend. Just because you can run at 1.55 does not make it safe. Every chip is different and that will include the effect of voltage on degradation. I just don't like your approach that because YOU did it ONCE with ONE chip that it is a stead fast value. It's what you're comfortable with and what you've had success with.
If we had dozens of people testing at that voltage in the long term then I would accept it as a safe value. Until that point in time I think we need to be a LOT more cautious about the maximum voltages which we are telling everyone is safe. In terms of statistics you have NO proof. You may have got lucky or your chip might be average. But we do not know so we should be leaning on the side of caution and not saying "You can run 1.55v 24/7, I guarantee it". While I know that may not be what you are saying, it sure sounds like it.
If you want to test your voltage theory on more chips then please, go ahead, and report back. But until that point I think it is unreasonable to label 1.55v as safe without further evidence. I think that may be what VonDutch was concerned about, that you were touting a set voltage as max with too little data to be considered proof.

And i think it is dumb to say 1.55c is un safe with out any evidence saying it is not.

And my Chip is just AVG.. wink.gif

What little data i have is more then anyone else has.
    
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Back on track...peace out guys xD
Guys, don't buy crucial ram for z77 cause it's better for amd/775/x58. Get samsung batch 1229 or newer and clock it to 2400 cl9-11-11-21-1t at 1.6v...also use maxxmem preview 1.99 not aida.

There's nothing wrong with Crucial RAM (or Aida64 for that matter)

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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

And i think it is dumb to say 1.55c is un safe with out any evidence saying it is not.
And my Chip is just AVG.. wink.gif
What little data i have is more then anyone else has.

It's a little thing called "Caution". There are many things that have no evidence to say something is bad, but you'd still be cautious about it. This should be one of those things where caution should be applied. Especially when your advice could have a damaging impact on people's hardware.

And being an average overclocker is nothing to do with it's "degradability" shall we call it.

But you have, in terms of statistics, one data point of a chip running at high voltage for long periods. That is all, one chip which has run at 1.55v. Not enough to call it safe and not enough to consider statistically significant information.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Back on track...peace out guys xD
Guys, don't buy crucial ram for z77 cause it's better for amd/775/x58. Get samsung batch 1229 or newer and clock it to 2400 cl9-11-11-21-1t at 1.6v...also use maxxmem preview 1.99 not aida.


I just got the kit but my MB wont over clock it past 2133mhz.... mad.gif


I'm sure the sticks are up to the job but my Z77 Mpower BIOS doesn't support it. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif


Still the best set of ram I have had in terms of system over clockability with low voltage and tight timings.


Work great with my delidded 3770k at 5GHZ. 1T 9-10-10-24 1.5v DRAM voltage.

http://valid.canardpc.com/2609406

Batch 12/29



Really the best RAM I have ever owned.
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Not sounding as a jerk at all mate - I understand that peoples definition on "Stable" varies alot.
It holds IBT (10 runs), Cinebench, a handful of games I tried and a QUICK 15 minute Prime95 run.
Have *NOT* taken it through a 24 hour P95 test as of yet, neither have I looked at it with a cold and evil stare while screaming
"This is sparta!" - All will be done in due time, no doubt I can force it to "crack" at some point with enough work thrown at it smile.gif

lol, "this is sparta!" love that movie. well if your vcore holds up under some longer testing I'd say you have a pretty awesome chip there. please let us know how it turns out. thumb.gif
post #4879 of 33400
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Originally Posted by Gomi View Post

Here we go - Another "Low-end" overclock - Have only touched Multiplier and VCore (Still a newbie at this).
5.0 Ghz stable @ 1.38V

This is with the MO-RA3 barely running at all - Could probably shave another 5 - 10Coff if I bothered to turn the fans from 7V to 12V.
I left the GIGABYTE TweakLauncher open, just in case anyone spots something that is HORRIBLE wrong - As I said, I have no idea what 80 % of the stuff does (Yet!) smile.gif

Nice clocks and temps. That MB looks awesome. Good job. thumb.gif
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There's nothing wrong with Crucial RAM (or Aida64 for that matter)

Is that the low voltage Crucial RAM we were talking about earlier?
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