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Originally Posted by stickg1 View Post

Is that the low voltage Crucial RAM we were talking about earlier?

Yeah...it runs at 1.5v
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So do i just have a bad chip? or am i doing something wrong here?

4.4ghz, 1.3vcore

4.5ghz 1.350vcore

EDIT: using a50 cooler, need to get some TIM for h100.
I am following this guide: http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards
Edited by ripsaw - 12/9/12 at 1:26pm
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sry for the long wall of text, multi-reply here, can't follow the thread as it flows (too fast) ...
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Originally Posted by dmanstasiu View Post

Oddly enough, I know on EVGA forums one user's 3770k was at 98C when he was reflowing it for Indigo Xtreme... 98C was the exact temperature the CPU limited itself to
To Ripsaw, can you post a graph monitoring software that actively monitor's your CPU's frequency during the stability tests? I'd be interested to see if it runs at it's full frequency or if it's throttling
IB 1155 have TJunctionMax set to 105C, not the 98C (this was for SB 1155 chips). I have seen it many times before on former chips (had like 5 of them), they start thermally throttling at 104C and for sure they will do that deeply once staying at 105C to beat the temps down.
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Ive had mine up to 105c before i de lidded XD
My puter restarted lol.
have never seen any of my 3770K restart at thermal limits and I was riding 2 of them at such for some time (before deliding) wink.gif restart could have been PLL voltage related (does that when set too low).
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Originally Posted by PuffinMyLye View Post

I fear i will have to up my voltage significantly to reach 5.0Ghz though considering the jumps I had to make from 4.6 > 4.7 > 4.8. If I keep it under 1.45 it will be a miracle. I am encouraged though that I dont have to worry so much about staying under 1.52.
my 2 chips from batch 3224B were doing 5GHz at 1.46v (fixed in BIOS, not offsets) and 4.8 around 1.28V, 4.9 around 1.36V
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Originally Posted by Gomi View Post

Not sounding as a jerk at all mate - I understand that peoples definition on "Stable" varies alot.
It holds IBT (10 runs), Cinebench, a handful of games I tried and a QUICK 15 minute Prime95 run.
Have *NOT* taken it through a 24 hour P95 test as of yet, neither have I looked at it with a cold and evil stare while screaming
"This is sparta!" - All will be done in due time, no doubt I can force it to "crack" at some point with enough work thrown at it smile.gif
I usually run CB on CPU and up vcore until no more WHEA warnings in Event Logs, have yet to crash such vcore under IBT or Prime under full load, so far CB stability testing proves the best and it generates only mid-high temps (unlike IBT which is horrible temps wise).
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Originally Posted by ripsaw View Post

So do i just have a bad chip? or am i doing something wrong here?
4.4ghz, 1.3vcore

4.5ghz 1.350vcore

EDIT: using a50 cooler, need to get some TIM for h100.
I am following this guide: http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards

mine can do 4.7GHz at 1.21v ....
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Originally Posted by feniks View Post

mine can do 4.7GHz at 1.21v ....
Are you using offset or manual mode? I can't seem to figure out offset mode, maybe i just need more practice..... rolleyes.gif You have same board and chip as me, i must be doing someething wrong, or maybe i just have bad chip.....doh.gif
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Are you using offset or manual mode? I can't seem to figure out offset mode, maybe i just need more practice..... rolleyes.gif You have same board and chip as me, i must be doing someething wrong, or maybe i just have bad chip.....doh.gif

Find out on what vcore you need on fixed mode first.
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Originally Posted by ripsaw View Post

Are you using offset or manual mode? I can't seem to figure out offset mode, maybe i just need more practice..... rolleyes.gif You have same board and chip as me, i must be doing someething wrong, or maybe i just have bad chip.....doh.gif

both. at first I took it on fixed vcore with 75% LLC and it was 1.210v in BIOS (1.208 under load), then made it on offset and it took +0.025 (nearly same vcore under load).
currently I am running 4.9GHz on offset (+0.175 75% LLC) which is 1.360v under load and seems stable at light load (couldn't make it happen at 5GHz however wa scrashing sooner or later on light load) and heavy load as well (which is easy to achieve below 5GHz, just stabilize it under Cinebench with no WHEA warnings).

just as said above, stabilize it first with fixed vcore and observe the lowest vcore number as it gets to under load as reported in CPU-Z. that lowest observed vcore under load is what you need to achieve with offsets and that is pretty much all. maybe only that offsets usually call for 3-4 notches higher vcore at higher clocks (shouldn't be the case at 4.6-4.7 though) versus fixed mode.
Edited by feniks - 12/9/12 at 2:35pm
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Giving up on the memory for now (This night) - How something so simple can give me such a headache is beyond me - Or maybe I simply hid a silicon wall.

IMC: 1.2
VTT: 1.2
VDDR: Tried from 1.65 (XMP default) -> 1.75.

Just wont post at anything above the rated 2666Mhz.
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Originally Posted by Gomi View Post

Giving up on the memory for now (This night) - How something so simple can give me such a headache is beyond me - Or maybe I simply hid a silicon wall.
IMC: 1.2
VTT: 1.2
VDDR: Tried from 1.65 (XMP default) -> 1.75.
Just wont post at anything above the rated 2666Mhz.

Imc should be below vtt...1.2v vtt needs 1.15v imc.
Anyways, either your imc is weak or (much more likely) you have single sided trident x sticks...look from the pins upward, and check if your pcb has ram chips on both sides or not. Should be easy to see under the heatsink.
Single sided ram uses more dense ram ic's which clock bad...kinda like most 8gb sticks, they do rated timings and nothing more.
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Imc should be below vtt...1.2v vtt needs 1.15v imc.
Anyways, either your imc is weak or (much more likely) you have single sided trident x sticks...look from the pins upward, and check if your pcb has ram chips on both sides or not. Should be easy to see under the heatsink.
Single sided ram uses more dense ram ic's which clock bad...kinda like most 8gb sticks, they do rated timings and nothing more.

Cheers mate.

Have 8 gb of that Samsung "wonder" ram aswell - Might just stick those in and have a blast seeing how fast I can get those.

Will change the IMC and give it one last go on these Tridents - Its not like they are bad - Just wondered how far I could push them smile.gif
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I really don't care about Ocing memory... The XMP setup is good enough for me.
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