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Well I exchanged my 3770K today at MC for a different batch. All the others they had were batch 3230B370. So I just picked one up and am hoping for the best at this point. Testing 4.5 right now at 1.195 fixed vcore. Temps seem to be an issue as I've hit a high of 78 even at 1.195 which seems awfully high for such a low voltage. I think I'm going to be forced to delid this thing if I even want to test much further.

Remember 95c is your wall.

Also it seems the older batches run hotter but clock higher and the newer batches run cooler but clock lower.

4.5ghz at 1.19v is what mine does and mine should be the Very first batch as i ordered it on release day.
    
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Remember 95c is your wall.
Also it seems the older batches run hotter but clock higher and the newer batches run cooler but clock lower.
4.5ghz at 1.19v is what mine does and mine should be the Very first batch as i ordered it on release day.

Yea I think I'm going to try to get this thing stable clocked as high as I can keeping temps under 95 before I delid to use as my reference. I'll just go from there. Since I won't be folding but mostly gaming and video rendering I'm not SUPER concerned with temps for daily use. Is 24hrs of prime stable the standard even if I won't be folding or is something like 12 hours sufficient?
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There are actually 3-4 batches before release date. The L batch or malaysias like mine have 4 before release date and the Costa Ricas have 3 before release date. This is because manufactuerers got the plans from the heads at intel before others. They made early batches not just to stock up on them but to test them for around a month before hand before releasing them.

What I believe is happening is that the older batches are being dug into from supplies which yield lower temps mine was a week 22 batch and I had really good temps before delid I could get 4.9 easily and fold but temps were in the 90s.

These earlier batches or test batches as I call them have less glue under the IHS making better contact and I believe intel made a change with the glue amount of possible testing from manufacturers stating that after a lot of tim change the IHS became a bit movable to the point they could take them off. That's why these later batches have really good IMCs but don't clock as well. The manufacterers samples actually do clock higher and almost all of the test batches do this as well. I think they all used a good batch of silicon, or possibly controlled the manufacturing process a bit more in order to make sure everything was done correctly. Which is why we see a lot more glue and tim on these newer batches.
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Yea I think I'm going to try to get this thing stable clocked as high as I can keeping temps under 95 before I delid to use as my reference. I'll just go from there. Since I won't be folding but mostly gaming and video rendering I'm not SUPER concerned with temps for daily use. Is 24hrs of prime stable the standard even if I won't be folding or is something like 12 hours sufficient?

I run it 5-8hrs but rendering a Video should be enough to see if your stable lol.
    
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mine is 3224B134
it does 4.7GHz Cinebench stable with 1.21V as set in BIOS (1.208 under load). chip is delidded though, so it could have been a tad higher with stock TIM.
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well guys looks like hit a wall, i though i would post this here first cause i learned a lot more here than any where else. i cant for the life of me get this thing to 4.7 stable, i stopped with 4.7 @ 1.45 and that still wasnt stable. seriously jealous of u guys being able to hit 4.5 with low vcore. i was reading a lot about the batch numbers thing so heres mine - 3224b151 costa rica, thinkin about sellin it and getting another one, AHHHH HELP ME
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My chip is batch #3223B444, 1.37v for 4.7ghz 18hs prime stable and 24/7 folder...before delidding. Haven't testted yet, but I'll have the mobo next week biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by PuffinMyLye View Post

Well I exchanged my 3770K today at MC for a different batch. All the others they had were batch 3230B370. So I just picked one up and am hoping for the best at this point. Testing 4.5 right now at 1.195 fixed vcore. Temps seem to be an issue as I've hit a high of 78 even at 1.195 which seems awfully high for such a low voltage. I think I'm going to be forced to delid this thing if I even want to test much further.
that is looking good! screw the temps, you will delid it anyways, right? vcore matters, if you could get 4.6-4.7GHz with 1.20V then it's good. the best test is to try booting (unstable) 5GHz with as low vcore as possible, up to 1.35V bootable 5GHz are all good chips, above it (remember, it's bootable, but NOT stable) are the weak ones.
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There are actually 3-4 batches before release date. The L batch or malaysias like mine have 4 before release date and the Costa Ricas have 3 before release date. This is because manufactuerers got the plans from the heads at intel before others. They made early batches not just to stock up on them but to test them for around a month before hand before releasing them.
What I believe is happening is that the older batches are being dug into from supplies which yield lower temps mine was a week 22 batch and I had really good temps before delid I could get 4.9 easily and fold but temps were in the 90s.
These earlier batches or test batches as I call them have less glue under the IHS making better contact and I believe intel made a change with the glue amount of possible testing from manufacturers stating that after a lot of tim change the IHS became a bit movable to the point they could take them off. That's why these later batches have really good IMCs but don't clock as well. The manufacterers samples actually do clock higher and almost all of the test batches do this as well. I think they all used a good batch of silicon, or possibly controlled the manufacturing process a bit more in order to make sure everything was done correctly. Which is why we see a lot more glue and tim on these newer batches.

interesting
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My chip is batch #3223B444, 1.37v for 4.7ghz 18hs prime stable and 24/7 folder...before delidding. Haven't testted yet, but I'll have the mobo next week biggrin.gif

ive delidded mine a couple months ago, so i assumed i would have better luck overclocking
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Try lower voltages like 1.35, 1.25, I can stable 4.7 at 1.26 but not 1.35 or anything higher lol.

i cant even boot into windows on 4.5 @ 1.3v
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New to the club.

OCN name: barretp
CPU: 3770k
on die-TIM: coollab liquid pro
ihs-TIM: gelid gc-extreme (came with waterblock)
Mhz gained: unknown
OC after delid: 4.5 Ghz
Temp drops: unknown
CPU-Z validation of max OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/2612469


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that is looking good! screw the temps, you will delid it anyways, right? vcore matters, if you could get 4.6-4.7GHz with 1.20V then it's good. the best test is to try booting (unstable) 5GHz with as low vcore as possible, up to 1.35V bootable 5GHz are all good chips, above it (remember, it's bootable, but NOT stable) are the weak ones.

I can boot Windows as low as 1.25vcore (read through CPU-Z and ASRock utility) so maybe that's a good omen? thumb.gif.
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I can boot Windows as low as 1.25vcore (read through CPU-Z and ASRock utility) so maybe that's a good omen? thumb.gif.

Boot in with 1.25v 5ghz?
    
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