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i use Cinebench as first test, if it runs, and i dont have whea errors, very important to look for when using cinebench
i let IBT run 20x, if thats ok, i go to extended testing with prime,(custom, max ram etc)
but after what we talked about last pages, i dont do the 24H prime runs anymore ..lol,
18H, or like kgtuning always does, shorter time, 10 or 5 min, instead of default 15 min,
it does shave of hours, and i dont think the results will be less then with 15min, not sure tho..
meanwhile browsing, start/close some proggies, play a game..of course biggrin.gif
its in the combination of "tests" that makes a good and stable oc smile.gif

lol, mine is probably way overkill.
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Originally Posted by PuffinMyLye View Post

I did up it 0.010vcore. I was originally testing it at 1.245 and it crashed after 3 hours. It's currently been running just about 10 hours at 1.255 with no issues so far. Actually it's more like 1.258 as that's what my mobo utility is reading it at and CPUZ jumps between 1.256 and 1.264.

If it took 3 hrs to crash ur like 99.9% stable to know u just need a tiny bump.

Now we see u have a great chip this is important...!

You have watched the de lidding videos are are 100% ready for this ?!

Take your time and take breaks if your hand is tired go onto something else not worth rushing it and messing it up..

Everytime u get up from your chair when you come back be4 touching the chip ground yourself everytime.. always wear latex gloves if u have them.
    
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If it took 3 hrs to crash ur like 99.9% stable to know u just need a tiny bump.
Now we see u have a great chip this is important...!
You have watched the de lidding videos are are 100% ready for this ?!
Take your time and take breaks if your hand is tired go onto something else not worth rushing it and messing it up..
Everytime u get up from your chair when you come back be4 touching the chip ground yourself everytime.. always wear latex gloves if u have them.

I've read the guides but can you link me to these videos you speak of?
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Originally Posted by alancsalt View Post

I remember when OCing the E8500 on an X48-DQ6 and a bunch of guys had a mad thread going (bit like this one) where they were enthusiastically trying to get a stable 533 FSB on the EP45-UD3P. Well one of them got his to pass 36 hours of Prime 95 only to have it crash next day at idle (No Cstates or Speedstepping enabled), and the response was that "idling is the new stress testing!" Crackup.
I used to run Prime for ages too, pass without failing, and then have games like GTA4 crash the OC. Don't have quite as much faith in stress testing as I used to.
LOL! man ... same feeling here ... at certain clocks (mostly higher ones), offsets can be a light load stress tester wink.gif hence why usually stabilizing the OC on offset calls for a little more vcore than with a fixed voltage. not a real problem though ... until I tried stabilizing 5.0GHz on my 3770K to be rock solid for daily running on offsets ... impossible so far after nearly a week of tweaking ...

It's actually my first board supporting offsets. In past I used only EVGA boards and those are fixed vcore only ... I had to settle for 4.9GHz on offset and realy all automatic settings and no problem, once I go to 5.0GHz it starts randomly BSOD'ing (124) on light load, anywhere between 5 minutes or 22 hours from boot up LOL!
My latest impression is that actually it's the BIOS programming responsible for this behavior (lack of offset tweaking after certain multiplier is passed), why? because on older BIOS for my board it takes up to 1.52V offset vcore (some number like +0.340) to be mostly stable at 5GHz while on latest BIOS I can reach the same level at only 1.48V actual vcore under load (offset +0.295 or so). ... Mind that with fixed vcore it takes only 1.46V vcore to be stable at 5GHz on either of BIOSes ...
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

if offset is done right, there should be no problem with oc's,
i always use offset, never had a problem, maybe needs some more
fine tuning then fixed vcore, but thats about it
with my 4.8ghz oc i used 0.160V offset, i thought that was to much tho,
but anything i use(d) between 0.020 and 0.050V offset ..no problem at all..
lol smile.gif
yea, best is to do a bit off all, play games, run ibt, prime and cinebench, even idle a while ..lol
maybe a idea for some programer to create a program that can run different load,
and do some stresstesting like prime smile.gif
but still, 24H prime is a very stable oc,
and upping vcore a 1 notch or 2 after that, if possible, makes it even better
I thought so too, but it seems to be true for my board only up to 49x multi, above it is like forget it wink.gif

I stress test the same way, CIne first, then IBT quick runs, then some max mode runs, some prime, gaming, daily using, etc. if no WHEA ever then it's all good biggrin.gif
However, I am not a fan of running Prime95 for 24hrs ... got better things to do with my system wink.gif
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i agree, I run IBT like crazy then prime on blend for 24hrs and game then I call it a "good" overclock.
try cinebench, it takes only a minute and sometimes proves more stressfull than IBT and Prime95 both together LOL!
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What are you're thoughts on just using Cinebench for stability testing? Some 12h stable Prime OC's have failed in seconds in Cinebench for me.
Also, is 1.36VCore for 4.7GHz a little high? I'm thinking I need to adjust something else, considering it only takes 1.315VCore for 4.6GHz.
I have tried:
47Multi @ 1.36VCore
1.2V CPU VTT
1.6V CPU PLL
No other voltage changes, aside from the LLC adjustments/etc.
Cinebench is my favorite stress tester biggrin.gif, usually when I make something Cine stable (with no WHEA in logs) then I have no trouble with any other stress tester or gaming or anything .. unless we are talking about offsets at 5GHz+ and light load BSOD LOL.
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IDK Hokies, I have had overclocks fail at 18 hr and 23 hr in Prime. but to each their own.
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LOL! man ... same feeling here ... at certain clocks (mostly higher ones), offsets can be a light load stress tester wink.gif hence why usually stabilizing the OC on offset calls for a little more vcore than with a fixed voltage. not a real problem though ... until I tried stabilizing 5.0GHz on my 3770K to be rock solid for daily running on offsets ... impossible so far after nearly a week of tweaking ...
It's actually my first board supporting offsets. In past I used only EVGA boards and those are fixed vcore only ... I had to settle for 4.9GHz on offset and realy all automatic settings and no problem, once I go to 5.0GHz it starts randomly BSOD'ing (124) on light load, anywhere between 5 minutes or 22 hours from boot up LOL!
My latest impression is that actually it's the BIOS programming responsible for this behavior (lack of offset tweaking after certain multiplier is passed), why? because on older BIOS for my board it takes up to 1.52V offset vcore (some number like +0.340) to be mostly stable at 5GHz while on latest BIOS I can reach the same level at only 1.48V actual vcore under load (offset +0.295 or so). ... Mind that with fixed vcore it takes only 1.46V vcore to be stable at 5GHz on either of BIOSes ...
I thought so too, but it seems to be true for my board only up to 49x multi, above it is like forget it wink.gif
I stress test the same way, CIne first, then IBT quick runs, then some max mode runs, some prime, gaming, daily using, etc. if no WHEA ever then it's all good biggrin.gif
However, I am not a fan of running Prime95 for 24hrs ... got better things to do with my system wink.gif
try cinebench, it takes only a minute and sometimes proves more stressfull than IBT and Prime95 both together LOL!
Cinebench is my favorite stress tester biggrin.gif, usually when I make something Cine stable (with no WHEA in logs) then I have no trouble with any other stress tester or gaming or anything .. unless we are talking about offsets at 5GHz+ and light load BSOD LOL.

take a look at the IVY stable thread and check the cinebench spreadsheet... biggrin.gif
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I've read the guides but can you link me to these videos you speak of?
First page in OP
    
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First page in OP

Call me retarded but I don't see any vids in the OP.

Edit: Are you referring to the ones on the Anandtech forums?

Btw here's my 12+ Hrs of Prime confirmation. Hope to delid this evening if I feel ready.


Edited by PuffinMyLye - 12/12/12 at 11:16am
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Thread is too long to read all the posts at this point. I noticed in the first post it was mentioned that the IHS slips around every time unless a new adhesive or glue is used.

 

Has anyone come up with a best one to use? I Figured just putting it around the edges of the IHS and reinstalling would be a decent idea... but considering I won't be picking up my 3570k until next week I was wondering if someone had tried or could recommend something for it :)

    
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Call me retarded but I don't see any vids in the OP.
Edit: Are you referring to the ones on the Anandtech forums?
Btw here's my 12+ Hrs of Prime confirmation. Hope to delid this evening if I feel ready.

Yeah there is vids in the forum links.
    
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