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I was browsing that Vishera thread and I saw something that made me laugh really hard. Check out this excerpt from one of the members sigs...
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There is a guy called Hokies83, ignore him, he does not respond to any reasonable proof provided to him and when he knows he is wrong he can't take it, he just throws outrageous graphs at you. His intention is to get any thread that shows his opinion in a bad light locked. God help you if he PM's you...

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Originally Posted by stickg1 View Post

I was browsing that Vishera thread and I saw something that made me laugh really hard. Check out this excerpt from one of the members sigs...
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Trolls i tell you And Amd fan Bois are the worst...

Im the only one who has any proof...
and i post it from Many sources

Fan Bois can not be helped if they want to remain ignorant let them...

There the ones that can never back up anything and stoop to name calling cause they cant..

Those trolls need to do more then spend all there time in that one thread hearing everything they want to hear...
Cause when they hear the truth they can not take it... kinda like a KKK member living in a Cave for 40 years.. when they find out Obama is the president they cant take it lol.
Edited by Hokies83 - 12/16/12 at 9:13am
    
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what vcore are you at for 5.1ghz?
my mobo isnt that good either,entry level, but runs all oc's without to many problems,
found a max vcore limit on it, 1.85V ..lol, but thats about it..
for sure, i gave him my "old" mobo/cpu etc..
the mobo were talking about now, and that 1100T
wouldnt start a new build for him with amd, intel rules ..np,
2500k is about the same prize as the fx8350 where i live, 10-15 euro diff..
and the 3570K is just a bit more money ..well..
yea, if i had mo money , i would buy me another mobo for sure,
this one isnt bad at all, but for ocing and benching, it isnt that good..

Cpuz is reporting 1.49v for 5.1. I can putz around windows all day at 5.1 but ibt is an auto crash.
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Cpuz is reporting 1.49v for 5.1. I can putz around windows all day at 5.1 but ibt is an auto crash.

thats about max vcore, and other programs, can you run prime, cinebench etc,
and only ibt crashes? whea errors?
lower oc's are easier i noticed, the higher the oc, the more "finetuning" it needs,
you want to run it 24/7 , or just benching and see what your chip can do ?
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I was browsing that Vishera thread and I saw something that made me laugh really hard. Check out this excerpt from one of the members sigs...
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Oh i see who it is now...

Yeah that guy that was only comparing Multi threaded games 8350 to the 3570k

When i asked for a complete compare he had a fit and so did all the Amd fan bois...

I mean jeez dude your like convincing ppl to buy into amd cause itt akes all 8 cores of the 8350 to keep up with 4 cores of the 3570k in a multi threaded game..

Why not Show a more fair compare and also use some quad and single threaded games... The Amd fan Bois went nuts...



Single threaded performance 50% faster? So what do u think would happen in a game using threads like this?




I even gave the 8350 props for keeping up in the multi threaded games.. but still the compare was kinda Bias they were using only multi threaded games...
    
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i read today amd is about 1 year behind on development compared to intel,
they stopped it for no known reason..

if you want really compare that way, pick the 2500k from the last generation,
then youll see, the fx8350 isnt that bad compared to the 2500k..
they cost about the same where i live, the 3770k is still about 300 euro, the fx8350 about 180 euro,
i know you can find a cheap 3770k somewhere hokies, i only say what i have to pay here,
and how the comparison should be made, still i think the 2500k would outperform the fx8350 on some things,
games, single threaded stuff.. to say fx8350 is a bad chip ...nah.. price/performance is good enough..
pitty they didnt get down the power usage more, bet they will make that better to in the future

"The new FX processors are based on four Piledriver modules, which is the second version of AMD's Bulldozer processor architecture. With Piledriver AMD manage to remove the main bottlenecks, and it can be said that it became what Bulldozer was originally supposed to be from the start."

just saying wink.gif
bit like ivy and haswell right ..lol
dont get me wrong, im still happy every day i turned away from amd
and bought my first ever intel ..lol, i dont think i will go back to amd within 4-5 years..
Edited by VonDutch - 12/16/12 at 9:44am
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i read today amd is about 1 year behind on development compared to intel,
they stopped it for no known reason..
if you want really compare that way, pick the 2500k from the last generation,
then youll see, the fx8350 isnt that bad compared to the 2500k..
they cost about the same where i live, the 3770k is still about 300 euro, the fx8350 about 180 euro,
i know you can find a cheap 3770k somewhere hokies, i only say what i have to pay here,
and how the comparison should be made, still i think the 2500k would outperform the fx8350 on some things,
games, single threaded stuff.. to say fx8350 is a bad chip ...nah.. price/performance is good enough..

In the states it's price per performance is bad aswell.. You can get used 2600ks for 220-240$ and new 3770ks for 229$ if u have a MC and used from 250=260$

And it is about 2 1/2 years behind Intel "in multi threaded" And 5 behind in single threaded.

But 1 year in the cpu world is like 10 in the real world lol.

We are comparing core for core performance here..

Please take note the core 2 quad is at 3ghz and the 4300 is at 3.8ghz...
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/50?vs=700
Core2quad = 2008

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=700
And the worst thing to note is Vishera IPC clock for clock is slower then Deneb / thubans Which really turned me on Vishera..

Earth to AMD.. New Cpu IPC is supposed to be faster then OLD cpu IPC what the hell are you doing?

Then comparing clock for clock performance VS BD...
Ignore the Intel ones just compare the 8150 to the 8350 clock for clock..


























Wide spread claims of 20% performance? No way it looks like BD is winning in alot of those benches... and when Vishera does win it is by a tiny bit..
Onlything Vishera really did was Use less power.. and it still uses 25% more then Intel.

Yes i know Ivys gains over Sandy were small aswell but atleast we got a better IMC and PCI-E 3.0 Vishera got none of that over BD.

Now if Vishera gave a true 20% clock for clock performance over BD and it's IPC was Faster then a 1090ts.. i would praise it.. But no.. Amd dropped the ball again.


Now some people may think im being mean or bias.. But i Invite you to go to another forum where truth is dominated and Fan bois just get banned..
HardOCP Overclock3d etc.. read there Amd sections and get back to me..
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Hey, i had my 1100T oced to 4ghz, same memory and same videocard..(just changed the mobo and cpu). But this 3570K kick its ass but alot. some games i got almost double of the fps......I'm very happy that i did the move to the BLUE side of the force. lol Don't think i will go AMD again.
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Hey, i had my 1100T oced to 4ghz, same memory and same videocard..(just changed the mobo and cpu). But this 3570K kick its ass but alot. some games i got almost double of the fps......I'm very happy that i did the move to the BLUE side of the force. lol Don't think i will go AMD again.

same here, and i always had amd, but felt like this time i should go intel, they "won"...kinda wink.gif
but this 3770K, after delid!!, is one amazing chip i have now, love it ..
1100T was my last too, but build it for the FX that where coming, hence the mobo,
but ..well, seems my 1100t was even better for the most part then the fx8150 back then smile.gif
so, i made my kiddo very happy with it, but the fx8350 over the 1100t isnt a bad upgrade,
making full use off the fx mobo also, for oc its good enough,
i sold the 1100t for alot, 140 euro, so only needed 45 euro to buy the fx8350, not to bad
and i gave him my 6850, now i have the 7970 biggrin.gif
it should be here in 2 days ...cant wait..pff..
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I most likely will wait for the next gen. 8000 series
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