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Since neither of you can read let me explain.
When I say delta, in other words the "change in", it means: Temp of core - ambient temps, my gpu idled at 18c which was close to my room temperature at the moment, resulting in 0.5c difference between my gpu temp and ambient.

You cannot trust idle temp readings from any CPU! dude, one of my former chips had some cores idling a few C degrees below ambient ... that was with stock TIM too ... trust only full load temps and nothing else. also the DTS (Digital Temperature Sensors) in intel CPUs work the most correctly/precisely the closer they are to TJunctionMax value (a thermal throttling limit).
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Not sure what you mean but I get a delta temp of less than 0.5c, that is the power of pro.

Was not clear to me from post. Most idle temps are inaccurate. The method used for inferring temperatures from sensors is notoriously so. Only load temps really matter. Normal idle delta is 6 to 8 C AFAIK. On some AMD chips the sensors say the chip is cooler than ambient, but both that and an idle delta of .5C are impossible according to the "laws" of physics. No?
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You cannot trust idle temp readings from any CPU! dude, one of my former chips had some cores idling a few C degrees below ambient ... that was with stock TIM too ... trust only full load temps and nothing else. also the DTS (Digital Temperature Sensors) in intel CPUs work the most correctly/precisely the closer they are to TJunctionMax value (a thermal throttling limit).

I said GPU............................................. READ
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Was not clear to me from post. Most idle temps are inaccurate. The method used for inferring temperatures from sensors is notoriously so. Only load temps really matter. Normal idle delta is 6 to 8 C AFAIK. On some AMD chips the sensors say the chip is cooler than ambient, but both that and an idle delta of .5C are impossible according to the "laws" of physics. No?

Laws of thermodynamics say that an object cannot be cooler than the air surrounding it unless heat is taken away externally. I'm not saying my temps are COLDER than my ambient I'm saying they are VERY close. This is because most of the heat that my gpu creates at idle, which is very little, is mostly all dissipated into my water. My point is pro provides a very good conductivity for the heat to transfer from my gpu core to the water block and then to the water. Using mx-4, my idle was higher because it does not conduct heat as well as pro.

What WOULD be impossible is me saying my gpu temps are at the same temps or COLDER than my ambient, which would require me to have 100% heat transfer.
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Man, physics, reading, and math. My head hurts! Let's keep it simple. Liquid pro works. I used it all up on my i5, 7970, and 560ti. All of these applications resulted in double digit temperature drops! I'm going to start injecting it into my bloodstream during the summer months.
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Man, physics, reading, and math. My head hurts! Let's keep it simple. Liquid pro works. I used it all up on my i5, 7970, and 560ti. All of these applications resulted in double digit temperature drops! I'm going to start injecting it into my bloodstream during the summer months.

Clearly that is impossible sir, your body tries as best as it can to maintain homeostasis (thermoregulation) to prevent shock. Injecting a heavy metal such as Liquid pro will likely result in major brain damage. Lol.
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Clearly that is impossible sir, your body tries as best as it can to maintain homeostasis (thermoregulation) to prevent shock. Injecting a heavy metal such as Liquid pro will likely result in major brain damage. Lol.
Well there's one way to find out! wink.gif
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Oh lord. On a vacavtion and you people talk about this.....

And congratz on surviving the end of the world.
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I said GPU............................................. READ
Laws of thermodynamics say that an object cannot be cooler than the air surrounding it unless heat is taken away externally. I'm not saying my temps are COLDER than my ambient I'm saying they are VERY close. This is because most of the heat that my gpu creates at idle, which is very little, is mostly all dissipated into my water. My point is pro provides a very good conductivity for the heat to transfer from my gpu core to the water block and then to the water. Using mx-4, my idle was higher because it does not conduct heat as well as pro.
What WOULD be impossible is me saying my gpu temps are at the same temps or COLDER than my ambient, which would require me to have 100% heat transfer.

OK, GPU then, still I say it's not like it appears to be... unless you are using a thermal probe mounted near the GPU IHS, do you?
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A 10ºC difference (delta) between coolant and ambient air temperature is considered an average to work toward. Anything exceeding 15ºC means the loop is becoming overwhelmed, while a 5ºC delta (or less) is very efficient.

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Hehehe...I'm back!
I have an AMD buttkicker rig with a G620 dual core lol AND psc ram! lol biggrin.gif

Best superpi 1m so far: 14.786s wink.gif
Can't oc this little bugger at all, and the IMC sucks so bad. It can't even run XMP for my psc sticks! (which is 1000mhz cl9-9-9-27-1t at 1.6v, stock vccio/vccsa)
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