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I've always wondered. Is it possible to get a direct extreme cooling pot? Like that one DT water block but for extreme cooling. It'd be amazing what you can do with a direct LN2 on the die or something. I doubt it'll get damaged either.

Some serious vasaline would be needed though.......and the right application of it too as well. But the direct mount....would be able to stay I bet at -60 to -80 for the best results that -100 range likes to get cbb lol me and you should go to a meet swag!
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I've always wondered. Is it possible to get a direct extreme cooling pot? Like that one DT water block but for extreme cooling. It'd be amazing what you can do with a direct LN2 on the die or something. I doubt it'll get damaged either.

Some serious vasaline would be needed though.......and the right application of it too as well. But the direct mount....would be able to stay I bet at -60 to -80 for the best results that -100 range likes to get cbb lol me and you should go to a meet swag!

We could. My family might move to Alberta Canada. Have an Extreme Cooling OC Party. I've done it twice already with some people I met at MicroCenter. tongue.gif Not bad actually. We got to do a lot of things and I learned a lot of about sub-cooling.
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we like numbers right smile.gif
and its the Delidded Ivy Bridge Club..
4.7ghz

so i did a IBT 10x run, stress level: maximum

temperature cores:
56-64-62-60 C. thumb.gifbiggrin.gif

4.7ghz, vid: 1.2360-1.2510V
........vcore: 1.2840-1.3080V

offset: 0.045V

core temp has 1C lower readings, but i started it later,
or it is just the difference in program ..

i tried offset at 4.8ghz,
but you all know i have a bad chip voltage wise,
was stable with 4.8ghz and 1.420V vcore,
my VID was 1.2610V, so i needed a offset 0.160V

Vcore-VID=offset
1.420-1.2610=0.159V right, so 0.160V for me,

im not sure what to think of such a big offset, could it work?
should it be no problem for me, or do i need to think of some things ?
could changing LLC from Turbo to Extreme help me?
turbo is slight vdroop, extreme is no vdroop,
would extreme give me lower offset?

o, and the high offset, will give me a higher idle voltage too..
Edited by VonDutch - 10/14/12 at 3:03am
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We did not really one up them as solder would probably be about as good as what we do. If Haswell uses as little power as Ivy Bridge (according to their presentations it will use less) they will probably use the same TIM again and not solder like Sandy Bridge. For Intel, there is no point in soldering the chips if it is not needed.

There is a need to solder the IHS as everyone knows it provides much better heat transfer, why bother unlocking a 3770K for overclocking if you are going to handicap the heat transfer capabilities? I say that the 3770K is a chip people would buy to overclock, it only makes sense to use TIM on the lower end chips and not the 3770K's!
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We did not really one up them as solder would probably be about as good as what we do. If Haswell uses as little power as Ivy Bridge (according to their presentations it will use less) they will probably use the same TIM again and not solder like Sandy Bridge. For Intel, there is no point in soldering the chips if it is not needed.

There is a need to solder the IHS as everyone knows it provides much better heat transfer, why bother unlocking a 3770K for overclocking if you are going to handicap the the heat transfer capabilities? I say that the 3770K is a chip people would buy to overclock, it only makes sense to use TIM on the lower end chips and not the 3770K's!

Don't say that! Advocate for all chips to be soldered!
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There is a need to solder the IHS as everyone knows it provides much better heat transfer, why bother unlocking a 3770K for overclocking if you are going to handicap the heat transfer capabilities? I say that the 3770K is a chip people would buy to overclock, it only makes sense to use TIM on the lower end chips and not the 3770K's!

I was talking about "needed" from Intels perspective; these chips still clock very well with the crappy TIM they are using now, so fro them it is mission accomplished.
For us however, if we don't want to mod, solder would indeed be needed. I would be happy if they just soldered the K models as we are already paying more for those.
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I was talking about "needed" from Intels perspective; these chips still clock very well with the crappy TIM they are using now, so fro them it is mission accomplished.
For us however, if we don't want to mod, solder would indeed be needed. I would be happy if they just soldered the K models as we are already paying more for those.

could you imagine if our 3770K's were soldered?
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I would def be in line to buy a new one/pay to have some one else do it(soldered version I mean)
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Got bored this morning tried out getting at 5.4ghz.. thumb.gif
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2544198
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could you imagine if our 3770K's were soldered?

To be honest, I think Liquid Pro or other liquid metals will do probably as good or maybe even better as solder. The power density for Ivy Bridge is higher than of Sandy Bridge, but I get lower temps at higher clocks with the same voltage and the same cooling, which indicates that even though the power density is higher I am able to cool Ivy Bridge better.
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