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Meh loosened HS till it was near falling off.. stiff code 51..
However i can run the 2 far right in single channel with out issue.
I never removed the CPU during this whole HS swap..
So 2 things must have happened...
1.. I tightened the HS so tight i bent a pin.
2 i tightened the Cpu so tight i damaged the pcb.
I was over due for a noob mistake and im fine running running single channel till Haswell "not like it is a big "performance loss or anything"
At that time i will trouble shoot the issue and see what it it.
I will also send a PM to Sin0822.

Oh geez man I really think you damaged the IMC on the chip your situation is exactly like the one I damaged....I got an error on bootup and it would only run in single channel mode. Gave it to a friend for a budget pc build. I hear that single channel vs dual channel doesn't matter for gaming on the good news side...

Well not exactly like the one I damaged I clearly removed some green and copper from the chip i screwed rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Meh loosened HS till it was near falling off.. stiff code 51..
However i can run the 2 far right in single channel with out issue.
I never removed the CPU during this whole HS swap..
So 2 things must have happened...
1.. I tightened the HS so tight i bent a pin.
2 i tightened the Cpu so tight i damaged the pcb.
I was over due for a noob mistake and im fine running running single channel till Haswell "not like it is a big "performance loss or anything"
At that time i will trouble shoot the issue and see what it it.
I will also send a PM to Sin0822.

dang frown.gif
hope its not the cpu..
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Meh loosened HS till it was near falling off.. stiff code 51..

However i can run the 2 far right in single channel with out issue.


I never removed the CPU during this whole HS swap..

So 2 things must have happened...

1.. I tightened the HS so tight i bent a pin.

2 i tightened the Cpu so tight i damaged the pcb.

I was over due for a noob mistake and im fine running running single channel till Haswell "not like it is a big "performance loss or anything"
At that time i will trouble shoot the issue and see what it it.

I will also send a PM to Sin0822.

Have you tried reassembling your entire PC again? Like how it was from the box. Just take everything apart. Also make sure the RAM is fully inserted (rookie mistake but I make it all the time)!
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ever tried to look if your ihs or base plate cooler is concave?
10C and above difference between cores is to much if you ask me,
before delid mine where about 10-15C apart also,
now its more like 4-6C..
not saying every chip is the same, but thats what i see around here..
some say the difference in core temps has to do with the cpu/die layout,
1 core is next to the igpu..

not sure if its true tho smile.gif
I'm pretty sure that lower temp on core0 (first one as reported in monitoring software) is the one right by iGPU, it always run cooler by significant degrees on every SB/IB chip I've seen.
other differences are most likely related to IHS concave (nearly all have them more or less) or bad TIM application on the die or wrong IHS placement (poor contact on last core) if chip was delided - did that twice on one single chip, my first deliding experience, had to redo it 3 times to make it all right, with the silicone sealant and all.
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Originally Posted by HardwareDecoder View Post

Oh, nah that is certainly not for me I might as well just delid if I am going to do that since grinding away the writing on the ihs voids warranty. I'm not trying to void my warranty on this chip ( I know that is blasphemy around here )
Also I Just realized that 10c difference I only know for sure I saw that much on my recent trip in to 1.4v / 4.7ghz land.
It may be less difference at lower vcore / frequency/temps
the differences grow under load the higher the frequency. most visible they are at or above 4.9-5GHz range if you can get there, they surely are minimized below 4.8GHz and are nearly non-existent at stock clocks. If chip wasn't delided that is most likely caused by both poor Intel TIM (some of those application I've seen were horrible) or IHS concave (yep, only lapping on both sides can fix it). don't worry about it if it's not too bad.
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I have removed the ram about 10x trying all slots and dimms alone and as a pair.

Both will only work in the 2 far right slots.

Should of known no more glue the pcb has no protection from IHS so over tight = ouch.. heh
    
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I have removed the ram about 10x trying all slots and dimms alone and as a pair.

Both will only work in the 2 far right slots.

Should of known no more glue the pcb has no protection from IHS so over tight = ouch.. heh

Actually, the brackets were put there so as long as the CPU slightly goes over the brackets (this is the normal so you can have contact IHS - CPU), the IHS will not crush the CPU. Of course, the motherboard is not made to withstand such a curve. Like with such a tight IHS, the motherboard will start curving and it may crack or break. That might be where your problem lies.
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I'm pretty sure that lower temp on core0 (first one as reported in monitoring software) is the one right by iGPU, it always run cooler by significant degrees on every SB/IB chip I've seen.
other differences are most likely related to IHS concave (nearly all have them more or less) or bad TIM application on the die or wrong IHS placement (poor contact on last core) if chip was delided - did that twice on one single chip, my first deliding experience, had to redo it 3 times to make it all right, with the silicone sealant and all.
the differences grow under load the higher the frequency. most visible they are at or above 4.9-5GHz range if you can get there, they surely are minimized below 4.8GHz and are nearly non-existent at stock clocks. If chip wasn't delided that is most likely caused by both poor Intel TIM (some of those application I've seen were horrible) or IHS concave (yep, only lapping on both sides can fix it). don't worry about it if it's not too bad.

i think this chip has pretty decent tim/dye application but who knows right? I am happy at 4.5ghz under 90c. I forget what my max is let me try a quick ibt.
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I have removed the ram about 10x trying all slots and dimms alone and as a pair.
Both will only work in the 2 far right slots.
Should of known no more glue the pcb has no protection from IHS so over tight = ouch.. heh

hmmm ... that would mean both problems, no dual channel AND first pair of slots (closest to CPU) being a problem on either board or memory controller. could mean a cpu problem ...

have you tried almost completely loosening the cooling block or running with stock HSF?
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hmmm ... that would mean both problems, no dual channel AND first pair of slots (closest to CPU) being a problem on either board or memory controller. could mean a cpu problem ...
have you tried almost completely loosening the cooling block or running with stock HSF?

Aha.... he said he can't use both slots closest to the cpu? My issue was slightly different, I could use any slots just not dual channel..... and mine was certainly a damaged cpu IMC. I guess his could just be damaged differently. Lets hope for a dead dimm slot or a bent pin though!
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Well ima buy a 2500k and test that.

If they is a no go ill RMA the board.
    
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