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A soldered CPU will transfer heat better than any other method. The reason being metal is the best heat transfer-er. The reason we have thermal paste is to assure that the CPU touches the HSF fully but we can only put a little so we won't bother the parts that will already be touching metal-to-metal.

I understand the theory, but reality seem to not be like that. The fact still is that Ivy Bridge has a higher power density but still runs cooler with Liquid Pro at the same frequency and voltage as Sandy Bridge. Therefore, Liquid Pro must be better than solder. My 2600K and 3770K are proof for this.

I have not seen any proof for the statement you make "A soldered CPU will transfer heat better than any other method".
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Originally Posted by beniroc View Post

Got bored this morning tried out getting at 5.4ghz.. thumb.gif
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2544198

Very nice OC beniroc
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According to some people that measured all the parts, if you clean of the glue propersly, the IHS should not be able to touch the PCB so sanding it down would be unnecessary. However, sanding it down a little bit also can't really hurt anything, so if you think your IHS is touching the PCB, go for it.

Yes, Conquistador SW is correct that the IHS should sit directly on the die once all the black glue is removed. In fact, the glue keeping the IHS from sitting on the die is what some consider as the real problem with the IB chips and not the intel TIM choice. Deliding allows for the IHS to sit on the die and may be what is mainly responsible for the great temps you deliders are seeing!

...I hope to be able to join your deliding temp fun next week when my CL Ultra arrives!!! - then I'll consider going beyond the 5.241GHz OC hi of my chip......
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3770K 4.5GHz Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA Gtx560ti 448 FTW (2x SLI) 16GB Crucial Ballistic Tactical 1866 9-9-9-24 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
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2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
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Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
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Originally Posted by Conquistador SW View Post

According to some people that measured all the parts, if you clean of the glue properly, the IHS should not be able to touch the PCB so sanding it down would be unnecessary. However, sanding it down a little bit also can't really hurt anything, so if you think your IHS is touching the PCB, go for it.

I don't think its touching any of the residue from the glue. However I could not get it down to the PCB. And when I was delidding there was almost no gap so it was just a thought. Guess I should have checked it with a micrometer.
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I don't think its touching any of the residue from the glue. However I could not get it down to the PCB. And when I was delidding there was almost no gap so it was just a thought. Guess I should have checked it with a micrometer.

Well, if your IHS is not able to spin on the die without the PCB keeping that from happening, then you may want to sand down the IHS sides some to make that happen. Improved temps can happen if the die IHS gap is reduced to zero I'd think.
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CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
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PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
AudioAudio
Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Coursair H80 Win7 64 Acer 27" Wide LCD HD Logitech Black Illuminated 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
AudioAudio
Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
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Well, if your IHS is not able to spin on the die without the PCB keeping that from happening, then you may want to sand down the IHS sides some to make that happen. Improved temps can happen if the die IHS gap is reduced to zero I'd think.

Mine does spin on the die. Maybe I'm just over thinking it. And considering my temps, it is probably fine. But when I lap the IHS I'll sand down the lip just in case.
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I want to delid my 3770K...
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Originally Posted by Neo Zuko View Post

I want to delid my 3770K...

Its risky business make sure you read everything accordingly and get everything in your mind prepared for the worst...that's how I think even when I bench lol.
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Thanks neopunx and pcwargamer,may try 5.5ghz next weekend. There may be a few more mhz in it.
Edited by beniroc - 10/14/12 at 5:33pm
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Thanks neopunx and pcwargamer,may try 5.5ghz next weekend.

What you using for cooling?? Sorry im on my phone lol.........kinda freaking out that my folding has stopped.....im worried for my little Franky!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Neo Zuko View Post

I want to delid my 3770K...

read all of the info on here before you decide to do it. I expected a dead chip so when it worked I was super happy.
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