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I don't care about specs, if it performs better than another, that's proof to me. Technically, AMD's 8-core CPU's should perform better than a Quad-core, but Intel's int architecture is better, so it performs better in real life and most benchmarks. I go for the Intel. tongue.gif Screw the specs that the companies' Head of Advertising put.
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i dont care about it either smile.gif

only thing i know is, it worked for me ..lol
this is my first ever intel processor, only had AMD's so far,
last one was a 1100T, but when i saw the 3770k, and the follow up FX8150,
i knew it was time to change ..lol

with my new temps after De-lid, and new oc's, about 30% extra speed, im very happy with this proc..very biggrin.gif

I used my brother's 1090T for some time and it wasn't desirable to me. It performed worse than my 930 w/o HT. I think AMD needs to step up their game!
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I think AMD needs to step up their game!

Way off topic of thread but AMD has been trying for years to catch up with Intel they just don't seem to have the know how.

Also you should have tried delidding that cpu to see if it helped.
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I think AMD needs to step up their game!

Way off topic of thread but AMD has been trying for years to catch up with Intel they just don't seem to have the know how.

Also you should have tried delidding that cpu to see if it helped.

I wonder if it's possible to delid the 1090T. My dad's 1090T is running @ 65C (TJ Max is 60C) on normal load. It's just crazy.
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Could you post photos of your IHS and Die TIM application?

No, not really, I've finished setting up EVERYTHING and its not coming apart yet. Plus that Liquid Ultra is not cheap. But next time I have to change it out, or if temps don't stay low, ill redo it all, and take pictures. Basically, I removed everything tht intel had just thrown together, and applied the LU TIM to the top of the die(completely) and the the underside of the IHS(completely). The Locked it in, spread the LU on the top of the IHS and also the CPU block. So, any who, I think it's covered, I made sure there was no back glue left on the IHS or on the chip, and I'm using the LU TIM on die. Any thoughts?
Edited by neopunx - 10/7/12 at 5:19pm
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No, not really, I've finished setting up EVERYTHING and its not coming apart yet. Plus that Liquid Ultra is not cheap. But next time I have to change it out, or if temps don't stay low, ill redo it all, and take pictures. Basically, I removed everything tht intel had just thrown together, and applied the LU TIM to the top of the die(completely) and the the underside of the IHS(completely). The. Locked it in, spread the LU on the top of the IHS and also the CPU block. So, any who, I think it's covered, I made sure there was no back glue left sep the IHS from the chip, and I'm using the Rex TIM in die. Any thoughts?
This is the first time I've heard of applying TIM to the underside of the IHS, Did you come up with that?
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I did this using the following as a guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXs0I5kuoX4
Without his insight about where the die is and seeing him do the process I'd never have had the guts or the knowledge, even reading wouldn't have made me comfortable enough to try it.
Old temps with Hyper Evo 212 full load were 72C
New temps with Thermal Fusion 400 are 64C full load. Clearly something is very wrong with the TIM Intel used, absurdly wrong. But these results are in line with what others have from what I see.
Also keep in mind I have probably reseated the heatsink 10x on the before de-lidding so that temp is valid, I've no idea how anyone is getting lower temps with the Hyper 212 Evo.
I'm satisfied with this, it's NORMAL IMO.................. So anyways........... I will try overclocking till it reaches 70C then stop, I don't really wanna go higher because I am not sure but would using the Virtua MVP option cause the IGP to heat the CPU more? I have no way of testing this since I have a GTX 670 and don't use the onboard video. That is how it was for the AMD APU's I've had, but they weren't using Virtua MVP so idk
Thanks for that video link, I did mine today after watching it. I think he said the die runs perpendicular to the lid rails, I think he should have said parallel.
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Edited by bigblock - 10/7/12 at 12:19pm
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I would invest in Coollaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra for the DIE-IHS and anything really for the IHS. I mean, what makes the MOST significant drop in temps would be the Liquid Pro/Ultra. A 1 - 3C drop really all depends on the seat you get. That's why normally, I just say +/-3C for all TIMs because I have had cases where I put on some really dry old paste and it got better temps than my new pastes. Only because I realized that I had a really bad seat with the others.

One thing of note in choosing which TIM to use between the die/IHS is effects of the extream changing thermal conditions and how they seem to be impacting the TIMs' longer term effectiveness. Some deliders have noticed that the large temp drops seemed to go away over time - only to return once new TIM was applyed. Seems that the dynamic effects of thermal change between the dis & IHS is having some effect on the TIM - maybe pushing it out or making voids.... I don't know all the findings yet, but seems that Coollaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra was better at preventing this, where other otherwise very good TIMs did not. Something to be aware of.

Check out some of this converstation on this link below @#295

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2261855&page=12
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Does the intel overclockers warranty cover delidding?

Hahahaha.......we wish smile.gif

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As you can see, the Liquid Pro and Liquid Ultra are basically exactly the same, the only difference is that one is thicker than the other. (I prefer the thinner one)

Good & useful chart, but what was the source? Also, it seems to be missing some other good TIMs I wish it had included. Is it dated/older?
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This is the first time I've heard of applying TIM to the underside of the IHS, Did you come up with that?

Well, originally, I didn't. I tried just AS5 on the die and on the IHS top. That didn't work out so well, so I tried LU only on the die and IHS top. Still not seeing major changes. So then I tried it the way it is currently. Just trying anything at this point. Why do you ask? I doubt with how thin this stuff is that it would be interfering with the heat transfer. Or am I missing something?
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Why do you ask?
I can't offer you any help. I'm gathering information for my new build. I de-lidded a 3770K today and have a tube of pro on the way.
Since you saw no difference between single or double layer I'll start with a single layer.
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Well, originally, I didn't. I tried just AS5 on the die and on the IHS top. That didn't work out so well, so I tried LU only on the die and IHS top. Still not seeing major changes. So then I tried it the way it is currently. Just trying anything at this point. Why do you ask? I doubt with how thin this stuff is that it would be interfering with the heat transfer. Or am I missing something?

No problem with using some on the IHS, as long as you don't add too much TIM overall. I think some deliders have had good results from using Coollaboratory Liquid Pro/Ultra with some on the die and IHS.
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