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So Mama Stick is getting me a new chip. I will be sure to test it thoroughly before delidding. The only problem is, if it does suck like my current one, its not like I can just take it back. The closest Micro Center is 5 hours way, hence me being excited that my mom is going to make a run for me on the way to Tennessee. I guess I will just remain hopeful. Also if I do keep the new chip over my old chip, what is a fair asking price for my delidded chip? I believe for someone that isn't an extreme OC enthusiast, they could care less if they need 1.53v for 4.7GHz because they will likely stay with 4.0-4.4GHz anyway right?

I will definitely mention that it is delidded, but should I tack the IHS onto the die with a couple drops of super glue to make it easier for the new owner to handle?

To be honest, if it's delidded, just plop on some super glue and sell it same price as a normal chip. If they are normal users, I doubt you need to really mention the delid part (might drive them away anyway) because really, as long as it works, no point. Especially with glue on it already. Also super glue might burn the PCB so don't use that.
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I might just sell it discounted to one of my friends at Tom's. We trade stuff all the time so I'm fine with giving them a deal. If I secure the IHS for them they wont care either way. (Some of them are older guys and wouldn't want to be bothered with a loose IHS) Should I just use some of that black rubber adhesive then?
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I might just sell it discounted to one of my friends at Tom's. We trade stuff all the time so I'm fine with giving them a deal. If I secure the IHS for them they wont care either way. (Some of them are older guys and wouldn't want to be bothered with a loose IHS) Should I just use some of that black rubber adhesive then?

Yea, any black epoxy glue would suffice. I recommend you using a tiny bit only so you are able to keep the new temps!
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Suppose you can add me to the club but at the same time I will share my experience

First of all, do I recommend deliding? NO!

Do I think people should delid? NO!

Heres my reason's

Firstly my Delid does seem to of been a success, everything seems to be working with no issues but I did make 2 tiny scratches to the pcb so I can see a little bit of gold instead of just green. Has this damaged anything? Who knows. It all seems to be working ok but I will prob never really know

Secondly, real world gains? For most of us NONE! Did it decrease temps? at a moderate overclock of 4.4? NO! I will do further testing though but considering I'm still hitting over 80C at only 4.4 I'm 99% sure this hasn't help

Will I ever delid again? NO!
Why? No real gains but can very easily damage a £240 CPU!

My advice for people who really feel the need to delid:

Make sure to use a very very thin blade that is very sharp
Be extremely careful and don't use any real force
Wiggle the blade gently and slowly, make sure it is flat to the PCB and in no way going to be pushed down towards the pcb
Still expect damage, It can very easily happen
Only really do it if you got the funds to replace it

Overall though I would not recommend this process to anyone, is it really worth the trouble for minimal gains? I would say no

The only people I would recommend to do it are those that can afford to replace if something goes wrong and only if there chip is able to do a moderate overclock at very low volts but still being hot

If you can do low volts and temps its fine leave it

If you can only do a low clock on high volts - get a different chip


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Suppose you can add me to the club but at the same time I will share my experience
First of all, do I recommend deliding? NO!
Do I think people should delid? NO!
Heres my reason's
Firstly my Delid does seem to of been a success, everything seems to be working with no issues but I did make 2 tiny scratches to the pcb so I can see a little bit of gold instead of just green. Has this damaged anything? Who knows. It all seems to be working ok but I will prob never really know
Secondly, real world gains? For most of us NONE! Did it decrease temps? at a moderate overclock of 4.4? NO! I will do further testing though but considering I'm still hitting over 80C at only 4.4 I'm 99% sure this hasn't help
Will I ever delid again? NO!
Why? No real gains but can very easily damage a £240 CPU!
My advice for people who really feel the need to delid:
Make sure to use a very very thin blade that is very sharp
Be extremely careful and don't use any real force
Wiggle the blade gently and slowly, make sure it is flat to the PCB and in no way going to be pushed down towards the pcb
Still expect damage, It can very easily happen
Only really do it if you got the funds to replace it
Overall though I would not recommend this process to anyone, is it really worth the trouble for minimal gains? I would say no
The only people I would recommend to do it are those that can afford to replace if something goes wrong and only if there chip is able to do a moderate overclock at very low volts but still being hot
If you can do low volts and temps its fine leave it
If you can only do a low clock on high volts - get a different chip
My 2 cents

What paste did you use? Mine dropped at least 25c and probably closer to 30c..
Mine was my first de-lid, I didn't have the money for anything better then an i3 at the time (I still don't) and i used a partially rusted blade.. Works fine.
 
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Originally Posted by liamstears View Post


Suppose you can add me to the club but at the same time I will share my experience
First of all, do I recommend deliding? NO!
Do I think people should delid? NO!
Heres my reason's
Firstly my Delid does seem to of been a success, everything seems to be working with no issues but I did make 2 tiny scratches to the pcb so I can see a little bit of gold instead of just green. Has this damaged anything? Who knows. It all seems to be working ok but I will prob never really know
Secondly, real world gains? For most of us NONE! Did it decrease temps? at a moderate overclock of 4.4? NO! I will do further testing though but considering I'm still hitting over 80C at only 4.4 I'm 99% sure this hasn't help
Will I ever delid again? NO!
Why? No real gains but can very easily damage a £240 CPU!
My advice for people who really feel the need to delid:
Make sure to use a very very thin blade that is very sharp
Be extremely careful and don't use any real force
Wiggle the blade gently and slowly, make sure it is flat to the PCB and in no way going to be pushed down towards the pcb
Still expect damage, It can very easily happen
Only really do it if you got the funds to replace it
Overall though I would not recommend this process to anyone, is it really worth the trouble for minimal gains? I would say no
The only people I would recommend to do it are those that can afford to replace if something goes wrong and only if there chip is able to do a moderate overclock at very low volts but still being hot
If you can do low volts and temps its fine leave it
If you can only do a low clock on high volts - get a different chip
My 2 cents

My temps dropped 15C at a 4.3GHz overclock, so either you're doing it wrong or you used garbage TIM. Don't come in here and say that it doesn't work when 50 of us have seen 10-30C temp drops, that is just downright asinine.
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I guess he missed the part about using Coollabs Ultra/Pro doh.gif
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My temps dropped 15C at a 4.3GHz overclock, so either you're doing it wrong or you used garbage TIM. Don't come in here and say that it doesn't work when 50 of us have seen 10-30C temp drops, that is just downright asinine.

Totally understand your point but I believe its all down to everyone's chips, each chip is different

I think I've made a 5C drop at 4.5 and that it, at 4.4 maybe a 2c drop

I'm using MX-4 so its a good paste and that's not the problem

I think though maybe I haven't removed enough of the glue, I removed it all from the shim and 99% of it from the pcb itself but there is still a very fine layer on the pcb as it didn't want to come off easy and I didn't want to damage the pcb anymore than the 2 lil scratches I have already got but to be fair I have removed the IHS again and done a re-paste and the paste is making a proper contact so I think this chip is just a DUD

Its a hot chip and needs quite a few volts to get it stable so I think I just have a dud, that's my reason for telling people to only do it if they have a good chip
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I guess he missed the part about using Coollabs Ultra/Pro doh.gif

Yeh I used MX-4, will it really make that much difference though?
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Have you read page 1 of this thread? wave2.gif
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Have you read page 1 of this thread? wave2.gif

Guess I will have to try Coollaboratory Liquid Pro

Does this stuff like stick like glue or will my IHS still slide when clamping in?
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