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Originally Posted by liamstears View Post

Totally understand your point but I believe its all down to everyone's chips, each chip is different
I think I've made a 5C drop at 4.5 and that it, at 4.4 maybe a 2c drop
I'm using MX-4 so its a good paste and that's not the problem
I think though maybe I haven't removed enough of the glue, I removed it all from the shim and 99% of it from the pcb itself but there is still a very fine layer on the pcb as it didn't want to come off easy and I didn't want to damage the pcb anymore than the 2 lil scratches I have already got but to be fair I have removed the IHS again and done a re-paste and the paste is making a proper contact so I think this chip is just a DUD
Its a hot chip and needs quite a few volts to get it stable so I think I just have a dud, that's my reason for telling people to only do it if they have a good chip
Yeh I used MX-4, will it really make that much difference though?

Yeah actually it makes a huge difference on TIM. I used Antec Formula 7 at first and only lost 5C, then I used Cool Labs Liquid Pro and lost another 15C on top of that. I left a lot of the glue on too. So that's a 20C difference from stock, and a 15C difference from a conventional TIM. Antec Formula 7 is just as good as MX-4, so get yourself some liquid metal and you will definitely see a difference.
post #7292 of 33991
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Originally Posted by liamstears View Post

Guess I will have to try Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
Does this stuff like stick like glue or will my IHS still slide when clamping in?

It WILL slide, so you need to be careful and try to hold it in place while you clamp.
post #7293 of 33991
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Originally Posted by liamstears View Post

Totally understand your point but I believe its all down to everyone's chips, each chip is different
I think I've made a 5C drop at 4.5 and that it, at 4.4 maybe a 2c drop
I'm using MX-4 so its a good paste and that's not the problem
I think though maybe I haven't removed enough of the glue, I removed it all from the shim and 99% of it from the pcb itself but there is still a very fine layer on the pcb as it didn't want to come off easy and I didn't want to damage the pcb anymore than the 2 lil scratches I have already got but to be fair I have removed the IHS again and done a re-paste and the paste is making a proper contact so I think this chip is just a DUD
Its a hot chip and needs quite a few volts to get it stable so I think I just have a dud, that's my reason for telling people to only do it if they have a good chip
Yeh I used MX-4, will it really make that much difference though?

yes it does a HUGE difference... Trust me, i did use mx-4 until i recieved the CLP... It's amazing.. GET IT NOW>
post #7294 of 33991
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It WILL slide, so you need to be careful and try to hold it in place while you clamp.

Ok sounds like I'm going with some Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra or Pro

But which to go for?

Sounds like the Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra is a little less likely to damage things but the Pro is slightly better is that right?

I can get the Pro cheaper so should I go with that? Is it likely to damage anything as it sounds like quite an aggressive paste?

EDIT: Pro is £8.95, Ultra is £11.27
Edited by liamstears - 1/5/13 at 8:03am
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Ok sounds like I'm going with some Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra or Pro
But which to go for?
Sounds like the Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra is a little less likely to damage things but the Pro is slightly better is that right?
I can get the Pro cheaper so should I go with that? Is it likely to damage anything as it sounds like quite an aggressive paste?
EDIT: Pro is £8.95, Ultra is £11.27

get pro for the die and ultra to the HSF if you like, i only use pro.

edit: i would use pro all over since you have the same d14 as me. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by liamstears View Post

Ok sounds like I'm going with some Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra or Pro
But which to go for?
Sounds like the Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra is a little less likely to damage things but the Pro is slightly better is that right?
I can get the Pro cheaper so should I go with that? Is it likely to damage anything as it sounds like quite an aggressive paste?
EDIT: Pro is £8.95, Ultra is £11.27

its only aggresive against aluminum, so you can't use it on a cooler base plate thats made of that,
most are copper, or like the ihs, nickel plated copper

im pro all the way, i think its great, best thing to use on the die, which you dont change that much anyways,
what chris-br says, if you can afford it, buy both, and use pro on die, and ultra on ihs,
it easier to clean if you ever have to take your cooler of again..
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get pro for the die and ultra to the HSF if you like, i only use pro.
edit: i would use pro all over since you have the same d14 as me. smile.gif

So its not recommended to use it only on die and use a thermal paste for ihs to hsf?

Best to use it on both die and heatsink?

Temp difference?
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So its not recommended to use it only on die and use a thermal paste for ihs to hsf?
Best to use it on both die and heatsink?
Temp difference?

I would just use pro on the die. On the IHS and heatsink just use a conventional paste. That's what I do because I change heatsinks and chips fairly often and the temp difference is negligible on the IHS. Unless of course you lap (or polish) the IHS. So my opinion is to get some Pro and use it on the die, and just use your MX-4 on the IHS. Pro is a pain in the buns to remove from the IHS and heatsink.
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I would just use pro on the die. On the IHS and heatsink just use a conventional paste. That's what I do because I change heatsinks and chips fairly often and the temp difference is negligible on the IHS. Unless of course you lap (or polish) the IHS. So my opinion is to get some Pro and use it on the die, and just use your MX-4 on the IHS. Pro is a pain in the buns to remove from the IHS and heatsink.

Ok will do this and report mid of next week hopefully

Thanks!
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I dropped 3c using ultra on Ihs over mx4 and ultra cleans easy good luck
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