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i really dont know what to do anymore guys its been weeks trying to get 5ghz mad.gif
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Originally Posted by chronicfx View Post

Sorry I didn't see this one.. So what was 1.271v then?

Thats what just cpu-z reports "vid". it is actually 1.48v @ %75 LLC
Now im just playing on droping it at 1.45v with %100 LLC

Im aiming for a free whea errors log file also..

At 1.45v with 100% LLC i hit exactly 1.48v just whatt i wanted when the cpu needs it...

-3c's less XD

In this mobo ill always use 75% to find max vcore and cpu limit at the max vcore i want to use as it keep it stable (hours of playing with this baby XD) at the vcore i want, then i start to drop vcore using %100 llc.. My goal is between 1.42-1.43v with %100 llc
Edited by zGunBLADEz - 1/5/13 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by chronicfx View Post

Did you check the vcore yet using the DMM puffinmylye?

I will be when I get home in about an hour.
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

i really dont know what to do anymore guys its been weeks trying to get 5ghz mad.gif

Your chip might just not have it in it buddy. 5Ghz for a 3570K is not exactly common. I'll be happy getting 4.8 stable on mine.
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Your chip might just not have it in it buddy. 5Ghz for a 3570K is not exactly common. I'll be happy getting 4.8 stable on mine.

NO i dont belive that, lol it has to be able to, IT HAS TO .cryingsmiley.gif
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And actually I didn't just say I thought z77 was better, but actually mentioned a few boards that couldn't clock ib chips past the 39x ratio.
spread for regular tims is worse, that's true (except for ic diamond and other diamond compounds or liquid metal which behaves like mercury lol)

I think gigabyte boards had an issue with going past 39x on the bios that came out when IB first came out. I believe it's been fixed, but I'm not sure (search results dont exactly bring a flood of "it's fixed and everything is fine!"). I think the whole p67/z68 issue is irrelevant now since I'm close enough to MC who has the $40 bundle reduction, which just makes the whole thing irrelevant. I might still consider buying like a p67/z68 (or z77 for that matter) on the cheap with like bent pins or some defect and take a gamble on that, but for the most part I think the p67/z68 thing doesnt matter anymore. Now if the sale goes away or something, maybe we can come back to that headache, but I'll just let sleeping dogs lie smile.gif
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Belial, it seems you like to be extra picky and cientific/methodical with your testing and everything ...do us a favor, when you get your IB cpu do the following:

-document your vcore, ambient, and core temps as displayed by real temp, for each core while running an IBT run as described on the first page (4.5ghz oc)
-calculate the delta temps of each core pre-delid.
-proceed to delid the chip and remove the glue.
-test temps with the stock intel tim without glue, calculate the delta and do the same with pk3. Try 3 applications or however you like for better accuracy, and calculate an average of the different attempts with each tim.
-use liquid ultra and do the same.
-use liquid pro and do the same.
(Use only pk3 for the ihs for ease of use)

That should give us really useful info with good methodology

I'm thinking not bothering with even running it without a delid, but I've been convinced I should make sure it's not DOA, and its easier to delid once the chip is a bit warmer. I dont know if I should be lazy and just run the stock cooler, or just do it right, pk3, nh-d14 mount with some sort of overclock, ie 4.5ghz@1.3vcore (and not worry about fine tuning it at least).

Besides, what you guys would probably be more interested in, is PK-3 vs CL, in which case, if I do need more temp reduction, I will definitely not hesitate to buy CL (i can actually get it on amazon for $12 including shipping lol) and run a proper comparison between the two.
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Originally Posted by Swag View Post

This is a message to all Delidded enthusiasts/members

After receiving an input on a certain matter, please use under your own discretion whether or not you want to take that piece of information. Please do not bombard this thread and fight against each other for something so small! This thread is supposed to be where people can help others get into delid and pass off information they have obtained from a different source (OT sometimes tongue.gif)!

If you guys want to rant about whichever paste is better or why this is better, please go make your own thread about it. If you want to merely discuss specifications of products, then you can use this thread!



@Belial
I have seen you in my other thread and the same thing is occurring here. If you must rant or argue about specifics on pastes, please make your own thread. No need to fight in a club that isn't meant to argue about such minute things.

I have seen him on another post and he did the same thing there. Some pepole are not really after any information, they just like to argue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

Sorry for the double post, mobile site here...

I was gonna add something:

Belial, it seems you like to be extra picky and cientific/methodical with your testing and everything tongue.gif...do us a favor, when you get your IB cpu do the following:

-document your vcore, ambient, and core temps as displayed by real temp, for each core while running an IBT run as described on the first page (4.5ghz oc)
-calculate the delta temps of each core pre-delid.
-proceed to delid the chip and remove the glue.
-test temps with the stock intel tim without glue, calculate the delta and do the same with pk3. Try 3 applications or however you like for better accuracy, and calculate an average of the different attempts with each tim.
-use liquid ultra and do the same.
-use liquid pro and do the same.
(Use only pk3 for the ihs for ease of use)

That should give us really useful info with good methodology biggrin.gif

Please ivanlabrie, don't invite him back! biggrin.gif
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i ran this for 15 hrs of prime LLC level 1 now im running it again with my LLC level 2 and my offset bumped up a little.


i gave up on 5ghz again mad.gif
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

Quote:
Your chip might just not have it in it buddy. 5Ghz for a 3570K is not exactly common. I'll be happy getting 4.8 stable on mine.

NO i dont belive that, lol it has to be able to, IT HAS TO .cryingsmiley.gif

We are pulling for you lilchronic! How high have been able to go and at what vcore? And what vcore have you already tried for 5GHz?
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

i ran this for 15 hrs of prime LLC level 1 now im running it again with my LLC level 2 and my offset bumped up a little.


i gave up on 5ghz again mad.gif

You do know lilchronic, that that is a nice vcore for 4.9GHz. Makes me wonder why you can't get to 5GHz???

Or is it 5GHz prime stable that is the problem?
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120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
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Coursair H80 Win7 64 Acer 27" Wide LCD HD Logitech Black Illuminated 
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Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
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Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
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2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
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Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
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Win7 64bit 22" Flat Screen (non-wide) Yes! Corsair GS600 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K 4.5GHz Asus Sabertooth Z77 EVGA Gtx560ti 448 FTW (2x SLI) 16GB Crucial Ballistic Tactical 1866 9-9-9-24 1T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
120GB SanDisk Extreme SSD  1TB WD Black Caviar  2TB Seagate Barracuda TSSTcorp cd/dvd/bd 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Coursair H80 Win7 64 Acer 27" Wide LCD HD Logitech Black Illuminated 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Coursair AX850 Cooler Master HAF 922  Kensington Yep! w/wristpad! 
AudioAudio
Xonar DX 7.1 PCIe Logitech Z906 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K 4.5GHZ 24/7 Ausu P8Z68-M Pro ATI 5770 Kingston Blue 1333 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Sandisk Extream 120GB SSD 750GB HDD CD/DVD Cooler Master 212 EVO 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 64bit 22" Flat Screen (non-wide) Yes! Corsair GS600 
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Cooler Master 912 Of course! nope intergrated & inexpensive speakers... 
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We are pulling for you lilchronic! How high have been able to go and at what vcore? And what vcore have you already tried for 5GHz?

i gotten up to 5.3 ghz. @1.55v for 5ghz my vcore ive tried is 1.325v -1.45v thats as high as ive gone for 5ghz
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5820k 4.7Ghz @ 1.28vcore / 1.88vccin Gigabyte x99 SOC Champion EVGA GTX 1080Ti G.SKILL Trident Z 32GB 3200Mhz CL14 
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2x Intel 520 120Gb SSD in RAID 0  Intel 180Gb 530 SSD OS Drive 2Tb WD HDD  2x Intel 730 SSD 480GB in RAID 0 
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2x HWLabs GTX360 Black Ice in Push Pull EK blocks for CPU / GPU's 6x corsair sp120 2350RPM 6x Ek Vardar 120 F4's 2200rpm  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
windows 10 XB270HU 2560x1440 - 144Hz - G-sync Razor blackwidow cooler master V1000 
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Corsair 780T EVGA TORQ x10 evga mouse pad 2.1 audio / Hyper X cloud II / Sennheiser Gam... 
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EK pump / res 
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6600k Z170M OC Formula GTX780Ti AMD HD6450 
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Trident Z 3600Mhz cl16 2x8GB 120Gb intel 520 120Gb intel 520 64Gb adata ssd  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
750Gb WD Black Sony  F1 Gemini CPU Pot Tek - 9 Fat 
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custom loop two 240rad's xp,W7,W8,W10 x-star 2560x1440  Rosewill Quark-650 Platinum / Antec HCP-850 Pla... 
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Daily Rig
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Bench Setup
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820k 4.7Ghz @ 1.28vcore / 1.88vccin Gigabyte x99 SOC Champion EVGA GTX 1080Ti G.SKILL Trident Z 32GB 3200Mhz CL14 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x Intel 520 120Gb SSD in RAID 0  Intel 180Gb 530 SSD OS Drive 2Tb WD HDD  2x Intel 730 SSD 480GB in RAID 0 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x HWLabs GTX360 Black Ice in Push Pull EK blocks for CPU / GPU's 6x corsair sp120 2350RPM 6x Ek Vardar 120 F4's 2200rpm  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
windows 10 XB270HU 2560x1440 - 144Hz - G-sync Razor blackwidow cooler master V1000 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair 780T EVGA TORQ x10 evga mouse pad 2.1 audio / Hyper X cloud II / Sennheiser Gam... 
Other
EK pump / res 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
6600k Z170M OC Formula GTX780Ti AMD HD6450 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Trident Z 3600Mhz cl16 2x8GB 120Gb intel 520 120Gb intel 520 64Gb adata ssd  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
750Gb WD Black Sony  F1 Gemini CPU Pot Tek - 9 Fat 
CoolingOSMonitorPower
custom loop two 240rad's xp,W7,W8,W10 x-star 2560x1440  Rosewill Quark-650 Platinum / Antec HCP-850 Pla... 
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Dimastech Mini V1.0 black razor abyssus Razor 
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