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Originally Posted by c2thew View Post

Are you guys disabling c3, c6 states on your motherboards in order to overclock past 4.6ghz and also, what windows operating systems are you using? I've tried everything on my bios to overclock past 4.6 without windows 8 giving me the BSOD, however i feel that windows 8 64 bit might be the issue since I'm assuming most of you who are overclocking your processors past 5ghz are using windows 7.
I'm hoping it's the latter so that it's a windows 8 issue and not a motherboard issue. I also tried pulling the other 3 sticks of memory, leaving 1 stick in and i keep getting random BSOD errors.
Also, do you think it's a power/voltage issue? My computer is on a 8 plug power strip however none of the devices attached are power hungry. (postal scale, speakers, lamp, monitor, external 1.5tb drive)
errors include:
NTFS FILE SYSTEM
SYSTEM THREAD EXEPTION NOT HANDLED
KERNEL MODE EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED
PAGE FAULT IN NON PAGED AREA
DRIVER IRQL NOT LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO
http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/kcs/document?docid=584512
TL:DR I get BSOD errors whenever i change the multipler from 45 to 47, 48....etc. 46 seems to be random crashes every once in awhile. Anything beyond won't get past windows 8.
Have you tested your memory?
post #7422 of 33658
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Originally Posted by ivanlabrie View Post

If you already have an extreme 4 an extreme 6 is not a big improvement,more like a sidegrade.
Get the OC Formula or the UD5H then, or MVF tongue.gif

But is the extreme6 a bad board? I have Mama Stick about to grab one today from Micro Center. It's the board I originally wanted but I decided to pony up for the P8Z77-V PRO which has been nothing but a disappointment.
post #7423 of 33658
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Originally Posted by PuffinMyLye View Post

Yea I'm not that disappointed because I went in expecting worse, so in a way it was a pleasant surprise.
Yes, each vcore I tested was with a higher OC that required at least that amount of voltage.
Yea it's certainly not ideal. However all it means was my last chip ran 5.1 stable at 1.434 instead of 1.414 which still isn't too shaby wink.gif. But at least now that I know the difference stays constant on all voltages I can just make the necessary adjustment. The good news is that this last delid went so well that my temps are really low, the bad news is that with this discrepancy I'll almost surely run into my voltage limit before my temps get too high.

Yeah it aint so bad. You still got two badass chips on your record.
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Originally Posted by Swag View Post

To me, it's one win closer. tongue.gif

Bring on the 49ers

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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

I watched all but the 4th quarter as it looked like there was no way the Vikings were gunna catch up. Glad GB won. Did I miss anything?

Apart from a late Vikings touchdown you didn't miss much
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Originally Posted by VonDutch View Post

i just contacted the Coollaboratory company in germany,
and ask what the w/mk are on ultra and pro smile.gif
last time i contacted them, took about 1 week for a answer
i had the same info, and been using it ever since, this
LM Pro = 82w/mK (according to a HWBOT 2008 TIM roundup)
LM Ultra = 32 or 38w/mK (several web sources )
IX = 20w/mK (IX literature)
PK-1 = 10.2w/m -c (frozencpu)
everything else is less
i do remember i was looking for the "hard facts",
very confusing sometimes..lol
like here,
amazon rates pro like this,
Liquid metal thermal conductive paste ~ 40 W/mK - Content 1 g
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liquid-metal-thermal-conductive-paste/dp/B001PE5XAC
or here,
Liquid ULTRA je nová verze vysoce výkonné Liquid PRO
# Revoluční teplovodivá pasta na bázi tekutého kovu
# Vodivost 90 W/mK (např. u konkurenční Arctic Silver je to 9 W/mK)
http://www.alphacool.cz/produkt/Coollaboratory_Liquid_Ultra.html
here,
Coollaboratory Liquid Pro
The manufacturer promises thermal conductivity of 82 W/(m·K).
Liquid pro should remain fully functional at operational temperatures between -273°C and +1200°C.
If it is true, it is truly impressive, but I doubt that anyone needs such a wide temperature range
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermal-interface-roundup_8.html
will let you know when i have a "official" answer ...lol

Good luck getting a response from Coollabs. They didn't respond when I asked them. There isn't any official data anywhere so if you do hear back from them it will be a first. All the info you posted is pure speculation and my guess is that it's pretty bad In the Xtreme Forums thread the guy claims he got that Ultra is "32 or 38w/mK from several web sources" but didn't link to single one. That's because they don't exist. He pulled the numbers out of his ass and people believed it.

I can't see how Pro could be rated 82w/mk and Ultra only 32w/mk. There's no way we'd be seeing the results we have with Ultra if it was so far behind Pro. I just want the Pro to arrive so I can run comparisons and will know for certain.
Edited by tw33k - 1/6/13 at 4:37am
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The extreme6 switches from dpak mosfets to higher quality mosfets. There is a review by sin in the mono section
post #7426 of 33658
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Originally Posted by King4x4 View Post

I got one kid on the way and I am all ready making sure to put all protective measures around my PC in motion (Guards, Guards, Meshs and more Guards)
Little bundle of joy but those little bundles of joy change into little bundles of terror soon enough biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by chronicfx View Post

The extreme6 switches from dpak mosfets to higher quality mosfets. There is a review by sin in the mono section

I just read that review, thanks. Yeah looks like Extreme6 is a good choice over the Extreme4. (Extreme4 was out of stock when I pre-ordered anyway).
post #7427 of 33658
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Good luck getting a response from Coollabs. They didn't respond when I asked them. There isn't any official data anywhere so if you do hear back from them it will be a first. All the info you posted is pure speculation and my guess is that it's pretty bad In the Xtreme Forums thread the guy claims he got that Ultra is "32 or 38w/mK from several web sources" but didn't link to single one. That's because they don't exist. He pulled the numbers out of his ass and people believed it.
I can't see how Pro could be rated 82w/mk and Ultra only 32w/mk. There's no way we'd be seeing the results we have with Ultra if it was so far behind Pro. I just want the Pro to arrive so I can run comparisons and will know for certain.

till now ive contacted them 3x, and got response to all of them, from 1 week til within 2 weeks,
maybe its because im Dutch..lol wink.gif
what we know of it here, it that they work both work well,
and that theres not much difference in performance tempwise when used on the die,

Ultra is the follow up, the new Pro, its easier to spread blabla, you know,
but then, why would they change the w/mk also, to a lower one,
makes no sense to me

yesterday i made another post, and done some research for answers,
so i looked for the w/mk of pure gallium, it has a 29-41w/mk,
made me think about what makes Pro have such high w/mk,
the 32 or 38w/mk that Ultra supposed to have would be more in range of that..

Ultra contains,

COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON CONSTITUENTS
2.1 Chemical characterization:
Alloy of the metal components gallium, indium, rhodium, silver, zinc and stannous, bismuth;
suspended in a graphite-copper matrix
http://www.coollaboratory.com/pdf/safetydatasheet_liquid_ultra_englisch.pdf


Pro contains,

COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON CONSTITUENTS
2.1 Chemical characterisation:
Alloy of the metal components gallium, indium, rhodium, silver, zinc and stannous.
Edited by VonDutch - 1/6/13 at 5:48am
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isnt it the same as the "intel recommended max vcore" is 1.52V for ivy bridge story,
people pick up these things bacause they think, "if he says it, it must be true" i know i did at first..

theres no word from intel anywhere, regarding max vcores on ivy,
if asked directly, they say, "we cant give you specific vcores if you oc"..
so no max vcore either..

Did you know,
"Intel found that at 22nm and smaller that lead-free solder started to crack and crumble under the pressure, no future chips will use solder."

a sentence like that, can spread like wildfire when picked up by others, and gets repeated all over the place,
before anyone takes the time to check out if its true or not..lol smile.gif
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Forgot to ask in my earlier post but what can I use to protect the 2 tiny area's of the PCB that I've scratched?

At the moment I've put a tiny amount of electrical tape over it as I don't want it to short out on the IHS or anything but that sticks out like a sore thumb, is there something else I could use?
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Forgot to ask in my earlier post but what can I use to protect the 2 tiny area's of the PCB that I've scratched?
At the moment I've put a tiny amount of electrical tape over it as I don't want it to short out on the IHS or anything but that sticks out like a sore thumb, is there something else I could use?

tiny drop of clear nail polish,
or ..i dont recall who used it and what exactly,
some silicone sealant stuff i think,
just found this,
SMD Epoxy red adhesive for PCB,
http://www.tradekorea.com/sell-leads-detail/S00044488/SMD%20Epoxy%20red%20adhesive%20for%20PCB.html
Edited by VonDutch - 1/6/13 at 7:32am
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