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thanks FtW,
pity, wanted to see cores temps below -0C reading...o well..at least its running very low noise now biggrin.gif

guess i better save more money for a better pot, thought it was to good to be true for that prize,
is your phase change cooler hard to make/build? cost alot or?,
and how expensive is it to run 24/7? (electric) or do you only run it when youre benching..
only 2?? ...haha
i take my chances, i know i have to think more before saying anything, and think, "is this ok to say, conform TOS ",
im just spontaneous, and i like to keep it that way ..lol


I got my phase units from a local builder, they can cost a fair bit new but I got a good deal.
The single stages don't use much power, the cascade can use a fair bit. It has to be the only thing on a 15 amp breaker to start up but running power isn't bad (I'll have to run the kill-a-watt on it next time I start up).
I am running the cascade as a daily machine right now, shutting down while sleeping but on for 12-16 hours a day the last couple days, helps with the heat in here (no actual heaters on the main floor, just electronics & space heaters for heat). I don't pay the hydro bill here though, I live at the house on the worksite, a couple thousand watts would never get noticed.
    
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i think it depends on the card. the 460 overclocks amazingly, while some AMD cards dont overclock at all. I dont think it's fair to say "AMD cards overclock better".

I dont really feel like overclocking GPUs is really overclocking, its not like RAM, IMC, or CPU overclocking. There isn't much to do (you can maybe replace tim but you basically buy the heatsink with the card and the tim is usually okay what is used anyways, although they use way too much, i usually just go back and wipe half of it off for better temps), and the most you can do is flash the bios... but ive never found increasing volts past the software induced voltage limits to be useful at all, and ive pushed some crazy gpu bios overvolts before...

what i mean is just like the excitement isn't there like it is with cpu or ram overclocking. its too easy, i guess. although it's probably more useful (i mean more useful than the fine tuning of a cpu once you got it in the right range, obviously 4.5 ghz from 3.3 is a big deal, but 4.5 to 5, notsomuch).

Gpus can be even harder than cpus to overclock. Most motherboards can give enough voltage, pretty much every card before the 400 series had to be hardmodded to get any voltage increase.
Even cards that do have software voltage can do better with hardmodding, bios modding & cooling.
    
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i saw someone on youtube taking apart a 70-80 dollar AC unit,
he got it to work on the computer too,

was just looking at this phase change cooling on youtube .. looks very nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WdRDrlXpF4

and peltier? ever tried something like that,
this guy made one, for about 12.5 dollar,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x-wxLEfLEQ


i stop asking now ..lol thanks FtW biggrin.gif
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Okay, so reading your inputs, it seems like I'll probably be going down the 670 route. Since there really isn't a "clear" winner, I think I'll go with the manufacturer that has not failed me yet. tongue.gif Now I have a different question, in regards to the 670, I plan to SLI in the future. Will my 3570k + MVG be able to handle the SLI? Any bottlenecking? On top of that, should I get the 2GB or 4GB version of the 670? Note the price for the 4GB 670 is only $30 shy of the 2GB 680.

I play ONLY on my center monitor for any game whatsoever (I hate triple monitor gaming), however, my full monitor build composes of 3 monitors each at 1440p.
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Ivy & sb-e can still overpower a single stage when overclocked high & fully loaded, but will do much better than water for validations & lighter loads with higher clocks (single & double thread stuff, 3d, etc.).
The only tec cooling i've tried was a water chiller (got water about 5° under ambient). It would take a pretty hefty tec to tame ivy & would not be cheap (it'd take serious water gear just to cool a tec powerful enough).
    
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Okay, so reading your inputs, it seems like I'll probably be going down the 670 route. Since there really isn't a "clear" winner, I think I'll go with the manufacturer that has not failed me yet. tongue.gif Now I have a different question, in regards to the 670, I plan to SLI in the future. Will my 3570k + MVG be able to handle the SLI? Any bottlenecking? On top of that, should I get the 2GB or 4GB version of the 670? Note the price for the 4GB 670 is only $30 shy of the 2GB 680.

I play ONLY on my center monitor for any game whatsoever (I hate triple monitor gaming), however, my full monitor build composes of 3 monitors each at 1440p.

Sli works on the mvg, there is no breathing room between the slots with 2 slot coolers though.
Most recommend 4gb cards with 1440p monitors. Mostly read that the games with lots of high res mods just eat up the vram.
I'm not a gamer so can't be too helpful there.
    
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Okay, so reading your inputs, it seems like I'll probably be going down the 670 route. Since there really isn't a "clear" winner, I think I'll go with the manufacturer that has not failed me yet. tongue.gif Now I have a different question, in regards to the 670, I plan to SLI in the future. Will my 3570k + MVG be able to handle the SLI? Any bottlenecking? On top of that, should I get the 2GB or 4GB version of the 670? Note the price for the 4GB 670 is only $30 shy of the 2GB 680.

I play ONLY on my center monitor for any game whatsoever (I hate triple monitor gaming), however, my full monitor build composes of 3 monitors each at 1440p.

Sli works on the mvg, there is no breathing room between the slots with 2 slot coolers though.
Most recommend 4gb cards with 1440p monitors. Mostly read that the games with lots of high res mods just eat up the vram.
I'm not a gamer so can't be too helpful there.

I spent $900 on these monitors, I guess I can cough up a bit more for it to run properly. PS: My next venture after these cards, I'll be going water so it's fine with the cooling. I just heard about the 700-series being released in a few months, should I just wait for that? I can wait because there are no games that interest me right now. I plan to start playing a lot more when Day Z standalone comes out or some amazing MMOFPS comes out. I play Aion time to time though. tongue.gif
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If you don't really need a card doesn't hurt to wait a bit & see what 700 series brings.
I just hope they drop the stupid boost thing. At least cpus let us turn off turbo & set the clocks where we want.
    
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If you don't really need a card doesn't hurt to wait a bit & see what 700 series brings.
I just hope they drop the stupid boost thing. At least cpus let us turn off turbo & set the clocks where we want.

What do you mean about the boost? Yea, any ETA on them? If it's within the near future, I will wait for that. I'm not in a huge rush right now since I don't play too many PC games. I plan to move back from XBOX to PC after new releases but for now, I'm using my xbox. tongue.gif
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i know HT off or on gives a bit lower temps, and higher gflops,
but does it lower vcore too?
or does it stay the same, i havent tried it, just wondering,
if so, i could oc higher see smile.gif

5.0ghz without HT


5.0ghz with HT

nvm the cpu-z reading, i think i used the same vcore for both that time, did both runs the same moment,
just to show the difference in gflops
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