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that would be cool, we could use some "OCN homemade delid vids"..lol
i have a bunch,
my kids doing some old pentiums, not sure if they are good enough to use here tho, as examples i mean smile.gif
me too, if i find time, and feel like it, i will surely try with my daily 4.7ghz oc biggrin.gif
also wonder now, if it would be easier to get it stable without HT ..

There's one I found on YouTube, and that's very good, although I think leaving the processor on the table, then having a knife (rather than picking it up) is a better idea.
I' thinking of doing it for fun, and then applying Arctic MX4 inside and out.

Just a thought:
Most do the line method, swag did the dot method. (as I'm leaning towards the line)
Which do you suggest Dutch?
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Originally Posted by Matt-Matt View Post

I know that a mate told me that on his i7 920 turning HT off increased stability, whether this was just due to less heat or what I'm unsure.

yea, i figured that much, no clue on the why tho smile.gif
less threads, more stability?
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

There's one I found on YouTube, and that's very good, although I think leaving the processor on the table, then having a knife (rather than picking it up) is a better idea.
I' thinking of doing it for fun, and then applying Arctic MX4 inside and out.

Just a thought:
Most do the line method, swag did the dot method. (as I'm leaning towards the line)
Which do you suggest Dutch?

a rubber plate, works good, put a corner on it, then delid a corner,
the table we used is made of "deal wood"(strange word, but google tanslated that way..lol)
its soft wood so good to use as underground, wont slide that way,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNQ_hxtKXBs
heres my kiddo doing a corner on a pentium

endresult, we even delidded the soldered ones ..lol



nooo, no mx4 on the die , liquid pro or ultra! ...LOL

when i used AS5 on the die and ihs, i used the spread method, like the manual suggests,
i know theres more chance for airbubbles etc, but i never had trouble with it, and i used it for years..
i just twist it a bit in both directions, before tightening the cooler all the way

i think for ivy, because of the shape of the die, line might work best,
i watched several vids i could find, and compared them all, but cant really say,. that one works best,
depends on viscosity of the tim too, how it spreads with any tim you use..
i would just follow the makers manual, and look what they say whats the best way to apply their tim

liquid pro is the same, spread method works best..
Edited by VonDutch - 1/15/13 at 4:53am
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For a super paranoid delider, is there any way to damage the IHS? I mean purposefully pointing the blade towards it slightly could almost completely prevent damages to the cpu.

EDIT: maybey I just need to watch a vid of someone cutting with the blade. do we have any of those?

Its one of those things, if nothing was on the line I would probably just calmly do it and succeed perfectly without even thinking about it. But since alot is at steak its in my head in a bad way.
Edited by Kolt21 - 1/15/13 at 4:41am
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For a super paranoid delider, is there any way to damage the IHS? I mean purposefully pointing the blade towards it slightly could almost completely prevent damages to the cpu.

EDIT: maybey I just need to watch a vid of someone cutting with the blade. do we have any of those?

Its one of those things, if nothing was on the line I would probably just calmly do it and succeed perfectly without even thinking about it. But since alot is at steak its in my head in a bad way.

just posted one my kids and i made ..lol
got several of them ...

if your in doubt, or think , what if.....dont do it yet..
learn some more, watch more vid's etc, till you get the, "yeah, now im gonna do it", feeling wink.gif
feeling confident is important too..
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I chipped the core on one last night and somehow the chip is fully functional...couldn't believe it.
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just posted one my kids and i made ..lol
got several of them ...

if your in doubt, or think , what if.....dont do it yet..
learn some more, watch more vid's etc, till you get the, "yeah, now im gonna do it", feeling wink.gif
feeling confident is important too..

ah ok!
And why the liquid pro over the MX4 in that respect smile.gif?
I know it is better in some aspects, but will that make a huge difference?
I know 1-2c difference is possible.
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I chipped the core on one last night and somehow the chip is fully functional...couldn't believe it.

wow how did you chip it?
As in where? lol
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ah ok!
And why the liquid pro over the MX4 in that respect smile.gif?
I know it is better in some aspects, but will that make a huge difference?
I know 1-2c difference is possible.

Huge difference... Like almost 20c less with liquid pro.... I did use mx-4 on die before using LP... After some time mx-4 was not cooling like the first boot up... Once i got the LP and took everything apart, the MX-4 paste was all dry up and hard. Think is because the die gets really hot too fast and the paste is not able to stand that kind of change... LP is different since is a liquid metal. I used LP in the die, in the botton on the ihs and also on top with HSF

EDIT: my temp difference was 27c from stock intel ****ty paste just using LP.

Edit2: if you want to delidd, i do recommend for you to use a thin razor blade.. its the best way.(that1s what i used). wink.gif
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Including Coollab and phobya liquid metal and my fav. tim gelid extreme
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ah ok!
And why the liquid pro over the MX4 in that respect smile.gif?
I know it is better in some aspects, but will that make a huge difference?
I know 1-2c difference is possible.

AS5, 80C hottest core


liquid pro, 55C hottest core


one could say, yea, but AS5 is a bad tim, hence the big difference,
it maybe old, but its still in the top15 tim's,
with not that much difference to the best ones, 4-5C at most smile.gif

because the die is small, the w/mk of the tim is important,
when used on the IHS tho, theres not that much difference compared to other tim's..

LM Pro = 82w/mK (according to a HWBOT 2008 TIM roundup)
LM Ultra = 38w/mK (coollaboratory info/helpdesk)
IX = 20w/mK (IX literature)
PK-1 = 10.2w/m (frozencpu)
everything else is less
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Yea I just watched it von. Thank You.

it seems easy to an extent but I have a question.

From that video it looks like the blade is a really tight fit. Is it actually relatively hard to cut into the side? by just focusing on keeping the blade perfectly verticle a person going slowly and with attention to detail would it be easy to not cut anything but the glue?

And how much harder is it to do with just a box cutter blade. The actual box cutter I have doesnt potrude enough of the blade to really be confident in this application and is bulky and awkward and made of steel.
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