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Originally Posted by [CyGnus] View Post

That internal PLL helps a lot high ram speeds above 2133mhz to be stable

really, so it could help me with using xmp profile you think?
only run mine at rated 1600mhz tho..ocing it i can forget..
does it influence other things too?
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well, and i decided to start running my 4.8ghz oc again today, will run it for a while to see how it goes,
this is my 24H prime stable oc @ 1.420V vcore

nice one CyGnus, so i run into a problem i forgot about with my ram,
running at 4.8ghz, i cant use xmp profile with it..tried, didnt boot..without xmp, no problem..

i do use offset with this, using 0.160V offset,( i thought is was to much offset for a while tho? )
i upped ram voltage to 1.55V, its rated 1.5V,
should i up it to 1.6V, and see if it runs with xmp then? no harm if i do?

also, i have a, "internal cpu pll overvoltage", i never really used it before, is it any good to use with ocing?
what could it help if i enable it..

Like Cy says it will help with your RAM try around 1.7 or 1,8 PLL I ran 1.5-1.8 for my everyday OC's depending on the Oc and such. give it a shot and see what happens really lol.
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its called, "internal cpu pll overvoltage", you sure we talk about the same thing?
i can only enable, auto, or disable it

i wanna give it a shot ..np, but i need at least a bit info about what im doing ...LOL

wait, i have a CPU PLL, that i can adjust , but i know how that one works,
this is just another option i have in my bios, but never used it before..

a, they are related im guessing now,
it prolly just overshoots the 1.8V that its set to normally if needed?

think i understand it now, brb, will enable, and see if xmp profile runs..


EDIT,
woohaa, that went very bad,
all kinds of stripes on the windows startup screen, then a bsod,
i also upped my ram voltage to 1.6V..

well, i tried another boot to check, im here now, with the same settings...
not sure if i should leave it enabled, i could enable the xmp profile,
its running now biggrin.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 1/15/13 at 11:18am
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its called, "internal cpu pll overvoltage", you sure we talk about the same thing?
i can only enable, auto, or disable it

Maybe it's your mobo again. I could adjust the voltage on mine for my OC's..... hmmmmmm
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Well that Internal PLL helped me with my OC here are the results:


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Internal PLL override is not same as CPU PLL voltage, actually they are 2 different things wink.gif

the first one allows you to OC the CPu multi higher than without it (I use it daily above 47x) and can be auto/enabled/disabled while the latter is the voltage for Phase-Locked-Loop voltage for the CPU and allows for some fine tuning (useful at higher OC to bump it up by 0.05v or so, don't go above 1.9V tho), could be lowered by a lot below 5.0GHz on IB chips. I can use CPU PLL at 1.50V at 4.7GHz, 1.55-1.60V at 4.9-5.0GHz.. lower CPu PLL gives slightly better temps under load.
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Maybe it's your mobo again. I could adjust the voltage on mine for my OC's..... hmmmmmm

i can adjust cpu pll, i used it alot with ocing, 1.65-1.75V ive used most of the time,
i think this extra option, internal cpu pll overvoltage, only ups it a bit more,
looks to me its the same as upping the normal cpu pll, got it set to 1.8V atm, maybe thats why it acted so strange when i booted ..lol

hmm, or it only ups it when needed, bit different then a fixed value?
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Internal PLL override is not same as CPU PLL voltage, actually they are 2 different things wink.gif

the first one allows you to OC the CPu multi higher than without it (I use it daily above 47x) and can be auto/enabled/disabled while the latter is the voltage for Phase-Locked-Loop voltage for the CPU and allows for some fine tuning (useful at higher OC to bump it up by 0.05v or so, don't go above 1.9V tho), could be lowered by a lot below 5.0GHz on IB chips. I can use CPU PLL at 1.50V at 4.7GHz, 1.55-1.60V at 4.9-5.0GHz.. lower CPu PLL gives slightly better temps under load.

i see, so i was thinking in the right direction, im just starting to run 4.8ghz again,
should i leave it enabled, with 1.8V cpu pll? or just leave it be, i mean, i always oced without using it..

it was acting really weird when i first booted, then it just bsod on me, now it seems to work, after second boot..

haha,. yea, better temps under load, just what i need ..LOL

will reboot a few times, see what happens..brb..
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Great explanations! Plus reps!
Understood then, if I choose to do it then I'll put mx4 at the top and clu on the ihs.
I've received my pack of arctic remover (liquid solution) so now I need a blade...first to check the temps of mx4 vs stock antec
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Great explanations! Plus reps!
Understood then, if I choose to do it then I'll put mx4 at the top and clu on the ihs.
I've received my pack of arctic remover (liquid solution) so now I need a blade...first to check the temps of mx4 vs stock antec

CL ultra is also a good choice for on top. It's easier to clean and you don't have to worry about it eating through impure metals. Also it is reported to cool nearly as good as CL LP. I have read about 3c hotter.
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CL ultra is also a good choice for on top. It's easier to clean and you don't have to worry about it eating through impure metals. Doesn't spread as think so you don't need perfect flat surfaces. Also it is reported to cool nearly as good as CL LP. I have read about 3c hotter.
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