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My opinion is this, if you delide a cpu why are you worried if the TIM is harder to clean... And if you buy CLP for the die why not also use it on the IHS? Just my 2cents.gif
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My opinion is this, if you delide a cpu why are you worried if the TIM is harder to clean... And if you buy CLP for the die why not use it on the IHS to? Just my 2cents.gif
That is what I would do if I ran the IHS. Since I don't run IHS no problem with IHS.


I would lap IHS and block to make sure nice and flat for CLLP if I used IHS.
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My opinion is this, if you delide a cpu why are you worried if the TIM is harder to clean... And if you buy CLP for the die why not also use it on the IHS? Just my 2cents.gif

Because there's no model number on the die that is necessary for RMA ?
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i would only think about lapping,
if after delid the temp difference between cores (still) where like 14-15C or more,
or something else is way off..compared to others that have delidded..

other then that, no need to lap, only for the , nice and shiny looks ...lol

day shift signing off...
Edited by VonDutch - 1/15/13 at 1:15pm
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Well, this is going be long...
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Okay, so reading your inputs, it seems like I'll probably be going down the 670 route. Since there really isn't a "clear" winner, I think I'll go with the manufacturer that has not failed me yet. tongue.gif Now I have a different question, in regards to the 670, I plan to SLI in the future. Will my 3570k + MVG be able to handle the SLI? Any bottlenecking? On top of that, should I get the 2GB or 4GB version of the 670? Note the price for the 4GB 670 is only $30 shy of the 2GB 680.

I play ONLY on my center monitor for any game whatsoever (I hate triple monitor gaming), however, my full monitor build composes of 3 monitors each at 1440p.

AMD beats Nvidia this gen, even with lower clocks. (after 12.11b drivers) Get a 7970 or 7950.
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well, and i decided to start running my 4.8ghz oc again today, will run it for a while to see how it goes,
this is my 24H prime stable oc @ 1.420V vcore

nice one CyGnus, so i run into a problem i forgot about with my ram,
running at 4.8ghz, i cant use xmp profile with it..tried, didnt boot..without xmp, no problem..

i do use offset with this, using 0.160V offset,( i thought is was to much offset for a while tho? )
i upped ram voltage to 1.55V, its rated 1.5V,
should i up it to 1.6V, and see if it runs with xmp then? no harm if i do?

also, i have a, "internal cpu pll overvoltage", i never really used it before, is it any good to use with ocing?
what could it help if i enable it..

Internal PLL ovevoltage is a MUST for high ram overclocking and multipliers higher than 47x.
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really, so it could help me with using xmp profile you think?
only run mine at rated 1600mhz tho..ocing it i can forget..
does it influence other things too?

It's gonna help getting things stable.
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i can adjust cpu pll, i used it alot with ocing, 1.65-1.75V ive used most of the time,
i think this extra option, internal cpu pll overvoltage, only ups it a bit more,
looks to me its the same as upping the normal cpu pll, got it set to 1.8V atm, maybe thats why it acted so strange when i booted ..lol

hmm, or it only ups it when needed, bit different then a fixed value?
i see, so i was thinking in the right direction, im just starting to run 4.8ghz again,
should i leave it enabled, with 1.8V cpu pll? or just leave it be, i mean, i always oced without using it..

it was acting really weird when i first booted, then it just bsod on me, now it seems to work, after second boot..

haha,. yea, better temps under load, just what i need ..LOL

will reboot a few times, see what happens..brb..

Not the same thing really, it's a different voltage altogether, despite the similar name.
It's not a thing you can change manually, but having it in Enabled helps so use it!
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Because there's no model number on the die that is necessary for RMA ?

hehehe...you CAN'T rma delidded chips, remember? wink.gif
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Because there's no model number on the die that is necessary for RMA ?

Are you serious? After a delid who worries with missing numbers on IHS of a CPU that cant be RMA?
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cant sleep yet ....

this,

Traditionally if you overclocked your Intel CPU you voided its warranty. But with Intel increasingly selling CPUs and chipsets with unlocked clock speed and memory bus speed settings, the company has followed in the line of some high end graphics card makers (and a handful of gaming systems builders), who have guaranteed warranties on overclocked devices.

Intel will offer warranties on the Core i5 2500K for a one-time purchase of $20 USD, on the Core i7 2600K or 2700K for $25 USD, and on the Core i7 3930K or 3960X for $35 USD. In exchange if customers damage their CPU by overclocking it, they will get a one time replacement.

also, found a very nice read about ocing with gigabyte mobo's,
maybe helpfull for some smile.gif
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/Gigabyte%20Sandy%20Bridge%20Overclocking%20Guide.pdf
i know, its with a sandy bridge, but still , the even mention the internal cpu pll overvoltage...lol with higher oc's,
but with fixed vcore, guess it works the same with offset..
Edited by VonDutch - 1/15/13 at 1:47pm
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cant sleep yet ....

this,

Traditionally if you overclocked your Intel CPU you voided its warranty. But with Intel increasingly selling CPUs and chipsets with unlocked clock speed and memory bus speed settings, the company has followed in the line of some high end graphics card makers (and a handful of gaming systems builders), who have guaranteed warranties on overclocked devices.

Intel will offer warranties on the Core i5 2500K for a one-time purchase of $20 USD, on the Core i7 2600K or 2700K for $25 USD, and on the Core i7 3930K or 3960X for $35 USD. In exchange if customers damage their CPU by overclocking it, they will get a one time replacement.

also, found a very nice read about ocing with gigabyte mobo's,
maybe helpfull for some smile.gif
http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/upload/files/Gigabyte%20Sandy%20Bridge%20Overclocking%20Guide.pdf
i know, its with a sandy bridge, but still , the even mention the internal cpu pll overvoltage...lol with higher oc's,
but with fixed vcore, guess it works the same with offset..

Yea, I plan on purchasing that warranty with my next chip, cause that one will go subzero. thumb.gif
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Yea, I plan on purchasing that warranty with my next chip, cause that one will go subzero. thumb.gif

lol still have to get it, but i understand i can do that anytime, or at least upto 1 year after purchase?

yeah,

The Plan provides a one-time replacement: (i) only applicable to the replacement of Eligible Processors (defined below) and (ii) only when the Plan is purchased within one (1) year of the purchase of the Eligible Processor. The Plan may only be purchased from the Plan website (www.intel.com/go/tuningplan).

25 bucks for a 3770K ..bought mine in may/july i think ,better keep this in mind
Edited by VonDutch - 1/15/13 at 1:55pm
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has anyone noticed any degradation with the ivy bridge i7 3770k.. basically i have just reinstalled my water cooling and clocked it back to 4.8ghz.. expecting to use the same settings at 1.36v, but i am not finding that i have to go to 1.38v.. since having the water cooling out, i have lapped the IHS and water block... other wise i have been running it at 4.5ghz.. @ 1.25 V.. it seems that higher oveclocks are demanding more voltage.. anyone else noticed this.. or is my chip a load of proverbial Poop..
Edited by Notion - 1/15/13 at 2:46pm
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