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I've been messing around with my newer 3570K, I have 4.9GHz now with 1.475v before LLC. I don't know if I can push for 5.0GHz though, the jump from 4.8 to 4.9 required .075v.

post #8612 of 33641
i was at 1.49v for 5.1GHz also did a wprime 1024mb for the competition that i am into here is a pic, 5.1 is stable enough it just uses too much vcore for my liking for 24/7 i just use 4.7GHz with 1.28v its my sweet spot



stickg1 nice overclock what are the temps with that voltage?
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I had the samsungs running at 8-8-8-21 1600mhz T1 for awahile tongue.gif

you guys are so mean ..lol.
want to see something funny,
with and without xmp, before and after a bios update,

before bios update without xmp


before bios update, with xmp


with xmp profile, max i saw, ran into trouble with that one,

dont know why it changed suddenly..just did ..lol, i liked the timings tho biggrin.gif

bios updated, xmp profile

what factory timings are

not sure what it sets to now, after updated bios, i think its better then before tho, will check in a min smile.gif

without xmp, bios updated,

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VonDutch that is just weird.... XMP changes with every bios update? I would Set the timings manually and you can run them at 1T easy
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i was at 1.49v for 5.1GHz also did a wprime 1024mb for the competition that i am into here is a pic, 5.1 is stable enough it just uses too much vcore for my liking for 24/7 i just use 4.7GHz with 1.28v its my sweet spot



stickg1 nice overclock what are the temps with that voltage?

I ran prime95 through the night so after 9 hours it was 80C on the hottest core. But it looks like it averages around 75C. I'm pretty pleased with that. This is my 2nd delid. Monday when I first delidded this chip I thought I killed it so I slapped some Ultra on the die and put it in the PC to see if it was dead or not, it works fine but I only shaved like 10C. So yesterday I took it out and redid the TIM on the die and lost another 10C.

With my hasty first TIM job, I was running 4.8GHz @ 1.4v and maxing out at 81C and now I can run 4.9GHz @ 1.48v with the same 80C temps. So it was definitely a good move to redo it.
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VonDutch that is just weird.... XMP changes with every bios update? I would Set the timings manually and you can run them at 1T easy

yea weird, thought it was very funny tho, thats why i post them here biggrin.gif
i dont know about T2 or T1 ..or whats best, i do know my ram .... when it comes to changing anything..lol
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The only issue with my ASRock board is that the 2133MHz 10-10-9-24-1T I was running on my RAM with the ASUS board is unstable on my new ASRock board. I think it's in the sub-timings or something. Because I leave them all on auto because I don't know what appropriate values for them are. Maybe my ASUS board did a better job of adjusting those automatically?
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I ran prime95 through the night so after 9 hours it was 80C on the hottest core. But it looks like it averages around 75C. I'm pretty pleased with that. This is my 2nd delid. Monday when I first delidded this chip I thought I killed it so I slapped some Ultra on the die and put it in the PC to see if it was dead or not, it works fine but I only shaved like 10C. So yesterday I took it out and redid the TIM on the die and lost another 10C.

With my hasty first TIM job, I was running 4.8GHz @ 1.4v and maxing out at 81C and now I can run 4.9GHz @ 1.48v with the same 80C temps. So it was definitely a good move to redo it.

changed to 4.8ghz again, with 1.420V vcore tho, 0.160V offset,
gonna run this looong time , if it works well during the next weeks orso..
see if it degrades in time or not wink.gif

ran prime last night before i went to bed, was 7H running this morning ..no problems.. no whea etc..

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stickg1 well asus boards have specific profiles and Asrock boards dont thats why, but try to up the TRFC a bit like more 10/16 and set your TWCL to 8 if it is on 7 and see how it goes let me know what happens. rolleyes.gif
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changed to 4.8ghz again, with 1.420V vcore tho, 0.160V offset,
gonna run this looong time , if it works well during the next weeks orso..
see if it degrades in time or not wink.gif


I wish i could be like that, i just dont feel comfortable with so much voltage in the CPU... We need to know more about IVY degradation until then i wont risk it.
The weird thing is my ram is rated at 1.35v and i dont have any problem of using it with 1.65v 24/7 lol maybe i will give it a bump in the CPU for 4.8 i need 1.36v guess is not to much either
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Good pot & free is a great price!
The older gpus can get better HW boints, although the 670 would get more global.
Catch 22 if you need to sell the 670 to get the 3770k though, the cpu matters more for most benches.
Get the best score you can in at least heaven bench with it before selling, it's about the least cpu dependent.

Yep...I already got the best I could muster with my former 3770k. 5ghz cpu, 2200mhz cl9-12-12-21-1t Samsung greens and the highest I could go with modded bios on my 670. Got a few globals but that card isn't really global material, 7970s are SO much better.
I'm using the money of the sale to clear some debts too, and I can save part of it for a new gpu later on and/or a custom loop.
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Oh my god! My PSU fried my goddamn chip! Went berserk after I plugged it in! Goddamn it! What the hell do I do now?

Hmm, I had the same thing but because of a short in my case. I'm getting artist's eraser to isolate stuff for cold and cause of my paranoia xD
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The chip is officially dead! I tried it out on my other motherboad and it is dead. Something happened to my PSU and it turned on for a second and then poof! The motherboard starting flashing awkwardly and my chip was pronounced dead!

Check the mobo with a cheap Pentium or Celeron, you can use your rig meanwhile...do you have a backup psu?
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Thanks ! smile.gif On a slightly different trajectory, I like to ask another question:

When I am building up the custom-loop later in the spring, I have been thinking to incorporate a SMALL Peltier / Seebeck effect cooler INSIDE the reservoir (or along the radiator) which in turn is mounted outside the case, along with the radiator, and running it with automotive anti-freeze. I don't actually want to freeze the system, but adjust the Peltier unit so that it drops the cooling medium to may be 5 C + or so ("Peltier 'light' ?!)

Assuming that is even possible / feasible, the resulting setup would still be below ambient and thus could generate some condensation along the pipes / hoses / metal fittings / elbows...are there some special insulation sleeves that can deal with that ?

Won't work...forget about peltiers, they were only good back in the Pentium 3 era or something, cause of the low tdp chips. They require a water loop to cool the hot side if you have a tec beefy enough for any kind of cpu cooling duty. Having a peltier in your res will cool the water by 1c maximum, and you'll need something hefty to cool the hot side, otherwise it won't work...it will overload and heat water instead and die. If you wanna cool the water in the res effectively you can later try modding an AC unit into a water chiller or maybe even go all the way and make it a single stage cooler.
Check the extreme cooling section here and at xtremesystems.org, there's a TON of good info there. You just have to see the dates those things were posted and on which hardware piece they were used.
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Originally Posted by [CyGnus] View Post

VonDutch and here they are at 5100MHz to give you an idea of the power of these greens:


Very nice man! biggrin.gif
You had great luck, mine SUCKED...What batch are those?
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Originally Posted by King4x4 View Post

I had the samsungs running at 8-8-8-21 1600mhz T1 for awahile tongue.gif

I had them do 1600mhz cas 5 lol 5-6-7-21-1t, 6-7-7-21-1t, 8-8-9-21-1t at 1866mhz, 8-9-8-21-1t at 2000mhz and 9-9-10-21-1t at 2133mhz, yet 2200mhz 9-12-12-21-1t performed best.
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Originally Posted by stickg1 View Post

The only issue with my ASRock board is that the 2133MHz 10-10-9-24-1T I was running on my RAM with the ASUS board is unstable on my new ASRock board. I think it's in the sub-timings or something. Because I leave them all on auto because I don't know what appropriate values for them are. Maybe my ASUS board did a better job of adjusting those automatically?

Asus boards tend to clock ram better, specially the ROG boards...
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Originally Posted by [CyGnus] View Post

stickg1 well asus boards have specific profiles and Asrock boards dont thats why, but try to up the TRFC a bit like more 10/16 and set your TWCL to 8 if it is on 7 and see how it goes let me know what happens. rolleyes.gif
I wish i could be like that, i just dont feel comfortable with so much voltage in the CPU... We need to know more about IVY degradation until then i wont risk it.
The weird thing is my ram is rated at 1.35v and i dont have any problem of using it with 1.65v 24/7 lol maybe i will give it a bump in the CPU for 4.8 i need 1.36v guess is not to much either

1.36v is nothing really, I wouldn't hesitate to go up to 1.45v for 24/7, even less being delidded.
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